From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
Subject: Re: tracepoint maintainance models
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:19:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1158596341.6069.130.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918152230.GA12631@elte.hu>
Ar Llu, 2006-09-18 am 17:22 +0200, ysgrifennodd Ingo Molnar:
> yeah - but i think to make it easier for SystemTap to insert a
> low-overhead probe there needs to be a 5-byte NOP inserted. There wont
> be any function call or condition at that place. At most there will be
> some minimal impact on the way gcc compiles the code in that function,
And more L1 misses. It seems that this problem should be solved by
jprobes and your int3 optimisation work.
> SystemTap. For example at the point of the probe gcc might already have
> destroyed a register-passed function parameter.
So its L1 misses more register reloads and the like. Sounds more and
more like wasted clock cycles for debug. Most of these watchpoints will
run billions of times a day on millions of machines none of whom are
using any debugging. You are optimising the corner case (in the extreme
in fact). Its one thing to dump trace helper data into the kernel, its
another when we all get to pay for it all the time when we don't need to
(or we compile it out at which point it offers nothing anyway).
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-18 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-17 9:40 The emperor is naked: why *comprehensive* static markup belongs in mainline Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-17 11:21 ` Paul Mundt
2006-09-17 14:36 ` tracepoint maintainance models Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 15:02 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 15:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 17:18 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 23:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 23:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 0:17 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18 9:01 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-17 20:37 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 22:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 15:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 0:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 1:12 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 1:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 2:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 2:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 3:54 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 4:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:43 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 2:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 3:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 5:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 12:25 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 15:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 15:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 15:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 16:19 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-09-18 16:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 17:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 16:15 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 17:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 17:27 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 18:04 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 17:54 ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-18 18:05 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 19:10 ` Vara Prasad
2006-09-18 19:49 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 19:39 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 20:28 ` Vara Prasad
2006-10-06 5:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-06 13:01 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-10-06 14:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-06 23:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-18 15:47 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 15:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 16:30 ` MARKER mechanism, try 2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 16:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 17:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 19:39 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-17 20:19 ` tracepoint maintainance models Nicholas Miell
2006-09-17 23:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 0:05 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18 1:52 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-19 12:58 ` tracing - consensus building insteat of dogfights Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-19 13:25 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-19 13:45 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 14:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 0:10 ` tracepoint maintainance models Nicholas Miell
2006-09-18 0:43 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18 0:56 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 0:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 2:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 3:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 3:52 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-18 4:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:24 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 4:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 5:03 ` LTTng and SystemTAP (Everyone who is scared to read this huge thread, skip to here) Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 15:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-23 15:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 5:37 ` tracepoint maintainance models Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 20:12 ` Michel Dagenais
2006-09-18 4:14 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 4:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 4:57 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 1:03 ` The emperor is naked: why *comprehensive* static markup belongs in mainline Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 15:53 ` Jose R. Santos
2006-09-18 17:28 ` Karim Yaghmour
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