From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
npiggin@suse.de, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rohitseth@google.com,
devel@openvz.org, clameter@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:06:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1158869186.6536.205.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830609201852k12cee6eey9086247c9bdec8b@mail.google.com>
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 18:52 -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
> On 9/20/06, Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting. So you could set up the fake node with "guarantee" and let
> > it grow till "limit" ?
>
> Sure - that works great. (Theoretically you could do this all in
> userspace - start by assigning "guarantee" nodes to a
> container/cpuset and when it gets close to its memory limit assign
> more nodes to it. But in practice userspace can't keep up with rapid
> memory allocators.
>
I agree, especially when one of your main object is resource
utilization. Think about the magnitude of this when you have to deal
with 100s of containers.
> >
> > BTW, can you do these with fake nodes:
> > - dynamic creation
> > - dynamic removal
> > - dynamic change of size
>
> The current fake numa support requires you to choose your node layout
> at boot time - I've been working with 64 fake nodes of 128M each,
> which gives a reasonable granularity for dividing a machine between
> multiple different sized jobs.
It still will not satisfy what OpenVZ/Container folks are looking for:
100s of containers.
>
> >
> > Also, How could we account when a process moves from one node to
> > another ?
>
> If you want to do that (the systems I'm working on don't really) you
> could probably do it with the migrate_pages() syscall. It might not be
> that efficient though.
Totally agree, that will be very costly.
>
> Paul
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Chandra Seetharaman | Be careful what you choose....
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Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-20 2:16 [patch00/05]: Containers(V2)- Introduction Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 13:06 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2006-09-20 16:45 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 16:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 22:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:59 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:26 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:37 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:42 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:07 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:06 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 22:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:33 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:39 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:05 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:26 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:51 ` [Lhms-devel] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21 1:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-09-21 1:36 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 22:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:22 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 23:45 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:34 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 23:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:18 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 17:30 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 23:37 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:53 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:07 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:10 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:17 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 18:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 18:43 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:54 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:25 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:35 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-20 19:57 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:30 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:33 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:50 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:34 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 20:49 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:51 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 21:04 ` Paul Jackson
[not found] ` <6599ad830609201605s2fc1ccbdse31e3e60a50d56bc@mail.google.com>
2006-09-20 23:54 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 23:57 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 0:09 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 1:25 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 20:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 17:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-09-21 19:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 20:17 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-20 19:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:31 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 0:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 0:42 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 1:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 1:52 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 20:06 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2006-09-21 20:10 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 21:44 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-21 22:09 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22 0:06 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22 0:13 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-22 0:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22 0:24 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-22 0:57 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-22 1:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 21:59 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-21 22:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-09-21 22:48 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:09 ` Chandra Seetharaman
[not found] ` <4510D3F4.1040009@yahoo.com.au>
2006-09-20 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 16:56 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 17:19 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:40 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 16:27 ` Rohit Seth
[not found] ` <1158751720.8970.67.camel@twins>
[not found] ` <4511626B.9000106@yahoo.com.au>
[not found] ` <1158767787.3278.103.camel@taijtu>
2006-09-20 17:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:23 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 17:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-20 17:30 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-20 17:50 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:14 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 18:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:33 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:38 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-20 19:48 ` Paul Jackson
2006-09-20 19:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-20 19:51 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Menage
2006-09-20 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-20 18:57 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 19:50 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-27 21:28 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-27 22:24 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28 8:01 ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-28 18:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 21:53 ` Balbir Singh
2006-09-29 0:22 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 18:12 ` Rohit Seth
2006-09-28 20:23 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-09-28 21:38 ` Rohit Seth
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