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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Alessandro Suardi <alessandro.suardi@gmail.com>,
	Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>,
	hostap@shmoo.com, ipw3945-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:54:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1159890876.20801.65.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061003123835.GA23912@tuxdriver.com>

On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 08:38 -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 12:44:42PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 09:21 +0000, Alessandro Suardi wrote:
> > >   we've been just through an email thread where it has been
> > >   determined that wpa_supplicant 0.4.9 (I would assume that
> > >   0.5.5 is also okay) and wireless-tools from Jean's latest
> > >   tarball are necessary to work with the recent wireless
> > >   extensions v21 that have been merged in.
> > > 
> > > What wireless-tools are you using ? 
> > 
> > This must be considered a kernel bug - it's not allowed to break
> > userspace compatibility in a stable series.
> 
> But there is no development series.  The closest thing we have is the
> merge window after each release -- which is exactly when this issue
> revealed itself.
> 
> Wireless in general (and the wireless extensions api in particular)
> is a bit of a 'whipping boy' in the Linux world.  OK, we suck.
> Everyone wants to display their wisdom by telling us how much we suck!
> We know all about it...
> 
> We have sucked, and we continue to suck -- and we are working on it.
> But, we are not going to be able to whip-up this omelette without
> breaking a few eggs.  If we can't do that during the merge windows,
> WHEN CAN WE DO IT?

This is a question for Linus, it's his rule...

Lee


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-03 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-02  8:59 wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing Norbert Preining
2006-10-02  9:21 ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-02 11:32   ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 12:21     ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-02 12:46       ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 16:50         ` Norbert Preining
2006-10-02 16:58           ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 18:15             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 18:55               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:22                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 19:59                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:34                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-02 19:39                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 19:49                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-02 19:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-02 21:00                   ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 21:26                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-02 21:58                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05 10:39                         ` Keith Owens
2006-10-02 22:08                       ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-03 12:12                         ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 12:49                           ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 13:38                             ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 14:12                               ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 14:30                                 ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 16:00                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 17:03                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 16:52                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:23                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:38                                 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 17:40                                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-03 22:30                                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 22:51                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 12:53                           ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-03 16:41                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-10  6:29                       ` Reinhard Tartler
2006-10-02 19:41               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 20:57                 ` Dan Williams
2006-10-02 21:04                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-02 16:44   ` Lee Revell
2006-10-03 12:38     ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 12:59       ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 15:54       ` Lee Revell [this message]
2006-10-03 16:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 18:05           ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 18:19             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 18:38               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 18:59                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 19:48                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 19:52                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 21:40                   ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 21:48                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-03 22:27                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 22:41                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04  2:10                         ` Jouni Malinen
2006-10-03 21:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 22:16                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-03 22:30                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 18:10                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 18:32                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 18:42                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 18:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 18:59                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 19:12                             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-04 19:21                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 19:52                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 20:12                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 20:19                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-04 20:47                                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04 22:26                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05  0:26                                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05  2:19                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 15:20                                         ` Alessandro Suardi
2006-10-05 16:28                                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-06 21:31                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-04 21:08                                 ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04 23:29                             ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-05  0:30                               ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05  1:55                               ` LEAP (was: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing) Jouni Malinen
2006-10-03 23:14                     ` [ipw3945-devel] wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing mabbas
2006-10-03 23:16                     ` Theodore Tso
2006-10-03 23:31                       ` Jean Tourrilhes
     [not found]                         ` <20061003202754.ce69f03a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-04  0:27                           ` Sean
2006-10-04  0:30                           ` Jean Tourrilhes
     [not found]                             ` <20061003203646.60d9589a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-04  0:36                               ` Sean
2006-10-04 12:36                               ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04  7:49                       ` Johannes Berg
2006-10-05 16:35                         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-05 16:43                           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 17:42                             ` Erik Andersen
2006-10-05 17:45                               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 18:36                               ` John W. Linville
2006-10-04  7:50                     ` Johannes Berg
2006-10-03 19:08                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-10-03 19:49                   ` Jean Tourrilhes
2006-10-04  2:21                     ` Jouni Malinen
2006-10-04  7:33                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 12:39                         ` John W. Linville
2006-10-03 18:31             ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-03 18:40               ` Jean Tourrilhes

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