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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:50:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1161269405.17335.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17719.35854.477605.398170@smtp.charter.net>

Ar Iau, 2006-10-19 am 10:30 -0400, ysgrifennodd John Stoffel:
> Avi> This patch defines a bunch of ioctl()s on /dev/kvm.  The ioctl()s
> Avi> allow adding memory to a virtual machine, adding a virtual cpu to
> Avi> a virtual machine (at most one at this time), transferring
> Avi> control to the virtual cpu, and querying about guest pages
> Avi> changed by the virtual machine.
> 
> Yuck.  ioclts are deprecated, you should be using /sysfs instead for
> stuff like this, or configfs.  

Bzzt Wrong answer, please try again 8)

The kernel summit discussions were very much that ioctl has its place,
and that the sysfs extremists were wrong. sysfs has its place (views
ranging from that being /dev/null upwards) but sysfs is useless for many
kinds of interface including those with read/write or other
synchronization properties, those that trigger actions and those that
are tied to the file handle you are working with. An executing VM
interface via sysfs is a ludicrous concept.

Making sure the ioctl sizes are the same in 32/64bit and aligned the
same way is the more important issue.

Alan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-19 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-19 13:45 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 14:30   ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 14:43     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 23:26       ` Greg KH
2006-10-19 14:50     ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-10-19 14:51       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 15:25         ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 18:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:10         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20  7:36             ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:33               ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22  8:10                 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:36         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 18:46   ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:04     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:09       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:26         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:31           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 22:15             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20  7:42             ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 20:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20  7:16     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 15:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22  8:19         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22  8:14     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: Intel virtual mode extensions definitions Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:19   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-19 21:54     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20  7:17     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22  8:17     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: kvm data structures Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: mmu virtualization Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:26   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20  7:24     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: x86 emulator Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: plumbing Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 16:09   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:14       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20  7:37           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 17:31 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-10-19 18:00   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:12     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-19 18:14       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:30         ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-21 16:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22  8:37       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 15:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 16:18           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 16:51             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:01               ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:06                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:41                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:47                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-22 18:00                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:41                       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:55                           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 22:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 22:29                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-22 20:01                   ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 20:45                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23  0:29                   ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-25 16:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-22 19:59               ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 22:28                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  0:27                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23  0:39                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  0:51                       ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-22 17:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 17:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 19:56         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23  7:42           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-24 21:38       ` kvm_create() (was Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine) Andy Isaacson
2006-10-19 18:55   ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Anthony Liguori

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