From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, dev@openvz.org, sekharan@us.ibm.com,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, balbir@in.ibm.com,
haveblue@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pj@sgi.com,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, rohitseth@google.com, menage@google.com,
devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:04:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1162397041.12419.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4548545B.4070701@openvz.org>
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 11:01 +0300, Pavel Emelianov wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >> 2. Having configfs as the only interface doesn't alow
> >> people having resource controll facility w/o configfs.
> >> Resource controller must not depend on any "feature".
That's not true. It's possible for a resource control system that uses
a filesystem interface to operate without it's filesystem interface. In
fact, for performance reasons I think it's necessary.
Even assuming your point is true, since you agree there should be only
one interface does it matter that choosing one prevents implementing
another?
Why must a resource controller never depend on another "feature"?
> > One flexibility configfs (and any fs-based interface) offers is, as Matt
> > had pointed out sometime back, the ability to delage management of a
> > sub-tree to a particular user (without requiring root permission).
> >
> > For ex:
> >
> > /
> > |
> > -----------------
> > | |
> > vatsa (70%) linux (20%)
> > |
> > ----------------------------------
> > | | |
> > browser (10%) compile (50%) editor (10%)
> >
> > In this, group 'vatsa' has been alloted 70% share of cpu. Also user
> > 'vatsa' has been given permissions to manage this share as he wants. If
> > the cpu controller supports hierarchy, user 'vatsa' can create further
> > sub-groups (browser, compile ..etc) -without- requiring root access.
>
> I can do the same using bcctl tool and sudo :)
bcctl and, to a lesser extent, sudo are more esoteric.
Open, read, write, mkdir, unlink, etc. are all system calls so it seems
we all agree that system calls are the way to go. ;) Now if only we
could all agree on which system calls...
> > Also it is convenient to manipulate resource hierarchy/parameters thr a
> > shell-script if it is fs-based.
> >
> >> 3. Configfs may be easily implemented later as an additional
> >> interface. I propose the following solution:
> >
> > Ideally we should have one interface - either syscall or configfs - and
> > not both.
To incorporate all feedback perhaps we should replace "configfs" with
"filesystem".
Cheers,
-Matt Helsley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-01 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-30 10:33 [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-30 10:34 ` RFC: Memory Controller Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 11:04 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 13:27 ` [ckrm-tech] " Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:14 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 17:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 17:22 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 18:16 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-11-01 7:05 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-01 7:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 7:44 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-01 12:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-02 0:09 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 0:39 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 15:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 17:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 8:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:19 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 9:25 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:10 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-31 10:36 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 8:48 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:54 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 11:15 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 12:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 14:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:54 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 6:00 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 8:05 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2006-10-31 17:04 ` Dave Hansen
2006-11-01 7:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 18:20 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 21:38 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 10:43 ` [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 14:19 ` [ckrm-tech] " Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 14:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 17:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-30 17:16 ` Dave McCracken
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:41 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 10:51 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 11:06 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 12:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 12:28 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 11:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 12:04 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 12:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 17:53 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 20:47 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:56 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 21:03 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 11:53 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-31 13:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-31 16:46 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 17:25 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 23:37 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-06 12:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-06 20:23 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 13:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-07 18:41 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 19:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 19:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 19:24 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 19:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 20:00 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 20:02 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 2:47 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-07 20:34 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 20:41 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 21:50 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 22:21 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-08 3:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 4:15 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-08 4:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 11:22 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 5:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-08 5:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-09 5:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-08 19:25 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-09 3:54 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-10 14:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 4:39 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 9:50 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-01 9:58 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 15:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 16:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 21:05 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 23:43 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 18:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 17:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 21:18 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-01 23:01 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-11-02 0:31 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 8:34 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-11-01 23:48 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 3:28 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-02 7:40 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 14:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 14:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 14:38 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 15:18 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 15:26 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 0:26 ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-31 8:34 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:33 ` Chris Friesen
2006-10-30 18:01 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 8:31 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:34 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 16:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 7:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 8:01 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 16:04 ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2006-11-01 17:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 17:50 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-02 8:42 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-03 1:29 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 9:30 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 9:53 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 22:23 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 18:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 22:19 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 23:50 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 0:30 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 5:33 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-02 9:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-02 11:26 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 13:04 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-03 1:29 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-02 8:52 ` Pavel Emelianov
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