From: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Kir Kolyshkin <kir@openvz.org>
Cc: devel@openvz.org, vatsa@in.ibm.com, dev@openvz.org,
sekharan@us.ibm.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
balbir@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pj@sgi.com,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, rohitseth@google.com,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:31:37 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1162427497.12419.186.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45492764.6060700@openvz.org>
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 02:01 +0300, Kir Kolyshkin wrote:
> Chris Friesen wrote:
> > Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> >
> >>>> - Support limit (soft and/or hard depending on the resource
> >>>> type) in controllers. Guarantee feature could be indirectly
> >>>> met thr limits.
> >
> > I just thought I'd weigh in on this. As far as our usage pattern is
> > concerned, guarantees cannot be met via limits.
> >
> > I want to give "x" cpu to container X, "y" cpu to container Y, and "z"
> > cpu to container Z.
> >
> > If these are percentages, x+y+z must be less than 100.
> >
> > However, if Y does not use its share of the cpu, I would like the
> > leftover cpu time to be made available to X and Z, in a ratio based on
> > their allocated weights.
> >
> > With limits, I don't see how I can get the ability for containers to
> > make opportunistic use of cpu that becomes available.
> This is basically how "cpuunits" in OpenVZ works. It is not limiting a
> container in any way, just assigns some relative "units" to it, with sum
> of all units across all containers equal to 100% CPU. Thus, if we have
So the user doesn't really specify percentage but values that feed into
ratios used by the underlying controller? If so then it's not terribly
different from the "shares" of single level of Resource Groups.
Resource groups goes one step further and defines a denominator for
child groups to use. This allows the shares to be connected vertically
so that changes don't need to propagate beyond the parent and child
groups.
> cpuunits 10, 20, and 30 assigned to containers X, Y, and Z, and run some
> CPU-intensive tasks in all the containers, X will be given
> 10/(10+20+30), or 20% of CPU time, Y -- 20/50, i.e. 40%, while Z gets
nit: I don't think this math is correct.
Shouldn't they all have the same denominator (60), or am I
misunderstanding something?
If so then it should be:
X = 10/60 16.666...%
Y = 20/60 33.333...%
Z = 30/60 50.0%
Total: 100.0%
> 60%. Now, if Z is not using CPU, X will be given 33% and Y -- 66%. The
> scheduler used is based on a per-VE runqueues, is quite fair, and works
> fine and fair for, say, uneven case of 3 containers on a 4 CPU box.
<snip>
Cheers,
-Matt Helsley
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-02 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-30 10:33 [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-30 10:34 ` RFC: Memory Controller Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 11:04 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 13:27 ` [ckrm-tech] " Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:14 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 17:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 17:22 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 18:16 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-11-01 7:05 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-01 7:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 7:44 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-01 12:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-02 0:09 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 0:39 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 15:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 17:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 8:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:19 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 9:25 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:10 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 10:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-31 10:36 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 8:48 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 10:54 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 11:15 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 12:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-10-31 14:19 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:54 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 6:00 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 8:05 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 8:35 ` David Rientjes
2006-10-31 17:04 ` Dave Hansen
2006-11-01 7:57 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 18:20 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 21:38 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 10:43 ` [RFC] Resource Management - Infrastructure choices Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 14:19 ` [ckrm-tech] " Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 14:29 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 17:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-30 17:16 ` Dave McCracken
2006-10-30 18:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:41 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 10:51 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 11:06 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 12:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 12:28 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 11:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 12:04 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 12:27 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 17:53 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 20:47 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 20:56 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 21:03 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 11:53 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-31 13:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-10-31 16:46 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 17:25 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 23:37 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-06 12:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-06 20:23 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 13:20 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-07 18:41 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 19:07 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 19:11 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 19:24 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 19:58 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 20:00 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 20:02 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 2:47 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-07 20:34 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 20:41 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-07 21:50 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-07 22:21 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-08 3:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 4:15 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-08 4:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 11:22 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-08 5:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-08 5:36 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-09 5:39 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-08 19:25 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-09 3:54 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-10 14:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 4:39 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 9:50 ` Paul Jackson
2006-11-01 9:58 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 15:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 16:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 21:05 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 23:43 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-01 18:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 17:33 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 21:18 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-01 23:01 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-11-02 0:31 ` Matt Helsley [this message]
2006-11-02 8:34 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-11-01 23:48 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 3:28 ` Chris Friesen
2006-11-02 7:40 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-30 14:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 14:23 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 14:38 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-30 15:18 ` Paul Jackson
2006-10-30 15:26 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 0:26 ` Matt Helsley
2006-10-31 8:34 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:33 ` Chris Friesen
2006-10-30 18:01 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 8:31 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:34 ` Paul Menage
2006-10-31 16:57 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 7:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-10-31 16:34 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 8:01 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 16:04 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 17:51 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 17:50 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-02 8:42 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-03 1:29 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 9:30 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-01 9:53 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-01 22:23 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 18:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-11-01 22:19 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-01 23:50 ` Paul Menage
2006-11-02 0:30 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 5:33 ` Balbir Singh
2006-11-02 9:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-02 11:26 ` Matt Helsley
2006-11-02 13:04 ` Pavel Emelianov
2006-11-03 1:29 ` David Rientjes
2006-11-02 8:52 ` Pavel Emelianov
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