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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH? hrtimer_wakeup: fix a theoretical race wrt rt_mutex_slowlock()
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:41:05 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1162849266.28571.352.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0611061609340.22166@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 16:17 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 07:35 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >
> > > It is relevant.  In powerpc, can one write happen before another write?
> > >
> > >
> > >   x = 1;
> > >   barrier();  (only compiler barrier)
> > >   b = 2;
> > >
> > >
> > > And have CPU 2 see b=2 before seeing x=1?
> >
> > Yes. Definitely.
> 
> OK, I see in powerpc, that spin lock calls isync. This just clears the
> pipeline. It doesn't touch the loads and stores, right?

Yes. That isync is to prevent loads to be speculated accross spin_lock,
thus leaking out of the lock by the top. In fact, it doesn't act on the
load per-se but it prevent speculative execution accross the conditional
branch in the spin_lock. 

> So basically saying this:
> 
>    x=1;
>    asm ("isync");
>    b=2;
> 
> Would that have the same problem too?  Where another CPU can see x=1
> before seeing b=2?

Yes.

What isync provides is

a = *foo
spin_lock_loop_with_conditional_branch
isync
b = *bar

It prevents the read of b from being speculated by the CPU ahead of a

Ben.




  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-06 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-05 19:34 PATCH? hrtimer_wakeup: fix a theoretical race wrt rt_mutex_slowlock() Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-05 22:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-05 22:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-05 23:08     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06  3:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-06 12:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06 12:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-05 22:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06  8:57   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 12:35     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 20:53       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-06 21:17         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 21:41           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2006-11-06 12:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 14:15   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-11-06 14:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-11-06 15:05       ` Steven Rostedt

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