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From: Ben Collins <ben.collins@ubuntu.com>
To: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Pushing device/driver binding decisions to userspace
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:24:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1163381067.5178.301.camel@gullible> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1163378981.2801.3.camel@entropy>

On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 16:49 -0800, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 15:39 -0800, Ben Collins wrote:
> 
> What's wrong with making udev or whatever unbind driver A and then bind
> driver B if the driver bound by the kernel ends up being the wrong
> choice? (Besides the inelegance of the kernel choosing one and then
> userspace immediately choosing the other, of course.)
> 
> I'd argue that having multiple drivers for the same hardware is a bit
> strange to begin with, but that's another issue entirely.

If two drivers are loaded for the same device, there's no way for udev
to tell the kernel which driver to use for a device, that I know of.

Also, that just sounds very horrible to do. If you have udev/dbus events
flying around for "device present", "device gone", "device present",
then it could make for a very ugly user experience (think of programs to
handle devices being started because of these events).

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-13  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-12 23:39 [RFC] Pushing device/driver binding decisions to userspace Ben Collins
2006-11-13  0:49 ` Nicholas Miell
2006-11-13  1:24   ` Ben Collins [this message]
2006-11-13  1:47     ` Nicholas Miell
2006-11-13  5:22       ` Ben Collins
2006-11-13  6:45         ` Nicholas Miell
2006-11-13  7:10           ` Ben Collins
2006-11-13  9:45             ` Martin Mares
2006-11-13 10:13             ` Xavier Bestel
2006-11-23 10:29         ` Greg KH
2006-11-23 11:40           ` Kay Sievers
2006-11-24  3:59             ` Greg KH
2006-11-13  7:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-13 18:51   ` Lee Revell
2006-11-13 20:18     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-13 22:16       ` Jim Crilly
2006-11-13 22:59         ` Lee Revell
2006-11-13 23:22           ` Jim Crilly
2006-11-13 23:45             ` Lee Revell
2006-11-14  1:14               ` Jim Crilly
2006-11-14  7:32         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-14 17:11           ` Jim Crilly

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