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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, balbir@in.ibm.com,
	csturtiv@sgi.com, daw@sgi.com, guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net,
	jlan@sgi.com, nagar@watson.ibm.com, tee@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [patch 03/13] io-accounting: write accounting
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:04:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1166004294.32332.93.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061213005954.e2d32446.akpm@osdl.org>

On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 00:59 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:45:50 -0800
> Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> > akpm@osdl.org wrote:
> > > From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
> > > 
> > > Accounting writes is fairly simple: whenever a process flips a
> page from clean
> > > to dirty, we accuse it of having caused a write to underlying
> storage of
> > > PAGE_CACHE_SIZE bytes.
> > 
> > On architectures where dirtying a page doesn't cause a page fault
> (like i386), couldn't you end up billing the wrong process (in fact, I
> think that even on other archituctures set_page_dirty() doesn't get
> called immediately in the page fault handler)? 
> 
> Yes, that would be a problem in 2.6.18 and earlier.
> 
> In 2.6.19 and later, we do take a fault when transitioning a page from
> pte-clean to pte-dirty.  That was done to get the dirty-page
> accounting
> right - to avoid the
> all-of-memory-is-dirty-but-the-kernel-doesn't-know-it
> problem.
> 
> 
> > AFAICS, set_page_dirty() is mostly called when trying to unmap a
> page when trying to shrink LRU lists, and there is no guarantee that
> this happens under the process that dirtied it (in fact, the
> set_page_dirty() is often done by kswapd).

we're talking:

  shrink_page_list()
    TestSetPageLock()
    try_to_unmap()
      try_to_unmap_file()
        try_to_unmap_one()
          set_page_dirty()

Which, because its run under the page lock, should always be false,
right? perhaps a WARN_ON might do.

> hm, that code is still there in zap_pte_range().  If all is well, that
> set_page_dirty() call should never return true.  


exit_mmap(), do_unmap()
  unmap_vmas()
    unmap_page_range()
      zap_{pud,pmd,pte}_range()

vmtruncate()
  unmap_mapping_range()
    unmap_mapping_range_*()
      unmap_mapping_range_vma(), madvise_dontneed()
        zap_page_range()
          unmap_vmas()
            unmap_page_range()
              zap_{pud,pmd,pte}_range()

Which is all ran without the page lock, so might be open for a race;
however, I don't see that hurting because the whole page is un-accounted
pretty soon afterwards.

> Peter did, you ever test for that?

Nope

> (Well, it might return true in rare races, because zap_pte_range()
> doesn't lock the pages)




  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-13 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-08 11:52 [patch 03/13] io-accounting: write accounting akpm
2006-12-13  8:45 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-12-13  8:59   ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-13 10:04     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2006-12-13 10:35     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-12-13 11:02       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-12-13 19:07         ` Andrew Morton
2006-12-13 22:00           ` Andrew Morton

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