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From: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core ...
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:18:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1173593917.2958.150.camel@entropy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703102119020.10330@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 21:31 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> > 
> > Ah, I see. You're just interested in fds as a generic handle concept,
> > and not a more Plan 9 type thing.
> 
> Indeed. It's a "handle".
> 
> UNIX has pid's for "process" handles, and "file descriptors" for just 
> about everything else.

And I imagine that somebody will come up with way of getting a fd for a
process sooner or later. 

> > If that's the goal, somebody should start thinking about reducing the
> > contents of struct file to the bare minimum (i.e. not much more than a
> > file_operations pointer).
> 
> Well, there's more there, but it really is fairly close. If you look at 
> it, a "struct file" ends up not having a lot more than the minimal stuff 
> required to use it as a a handle: it really isn't a very big structure. 
> 
> The biggest part is actually the read-ahead state, which is arguably a 
> generic thing for a file handle, even though not all kinds will be able to 
> use it. We *could* make that be behind a pointer (along with the "f_pos" 
> thing, that really logically goes along with the read-ahead thing), of 
> course, but since most files probably do end up being "traditional file" 
> structures, it's probably not wrong to just have it in the file.
> 

Actually, I was thinking reducing struct file to the bare minimum, and
then using that as the common header shared by object-specific
structures. I don't know how unpleasant that would be from a memory
allocation perspective, though.

-- 
Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>


  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-11  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-09 23:41 [patch 6/9] signalfd/timerfd v1 - timerfd core Davide Libenzi
2007-03-10  6:33 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-10  6:38   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-10  6:43     ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-10  6:53       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-10  7:09         ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-10  7:36           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-10 19:52             ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-10 20:41               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-10 21:01                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-10 21:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-10 21:56                     ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-10 22:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  0:25                         ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-11  0:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  1:49                             ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-11  1:57                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-11  2:09                                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-03-11  5:31                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  6:18                                 ` Nicholas Miell [this message]
2007-03-11 16:29                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  3:42                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-11  5:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  5:44                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-10 22:30                   ` Davide Libenzi

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