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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	"Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <qrczak@knm.org.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: _proxy_pda still makes linking modules fail
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:23:52 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1173767032.10618.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1173736726.10618.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 08:59 +1100, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 10:48 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Rusty's pda->per_cpu patch will deal with this once and for all; have
> > 
> > Not on x86-64.
> 
> Indeed.  Perhaps it's time I join the modern world and compile a 64-bit
> kernel...
> 
> Will prepare patches,

No, I don't think I will.  The PDA concept has gone too far in x86-64 to
be undone.  In particular, it's been put in GCC 4.1 for
CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR, which assumes %gs:40 will give the stack
canary.

For the record: the PDA should never have existed, that's what percpu
vars were supposed to be for.  Something went wrong here 8(

%gs is best set to the offset of the local cpu's area from the "master"
per-cpu area, not set to the local cpu area's address.  In the former
case, booting with %gs at offset 0 works naturally, in the latter case,
hoops need to be jumped through to make it work.  See how much nicer the
x86 code is post pda->percpu conversion.

So, even if we leave the PDA and place the per-cpu area immediately
after it, we still can't use "%gs:var" to access a per-cpu variable: we
need to do a subtract, so why bother using the segment reg?

The ideal solution has always been to use __thread, but no architecture
has yet managed it (I tried for i386, and it quickly caused unbearable
pain).  On x86-64 that uses "%fs" on x86-64, not "%gs" as the kernel
does, but I might try that if I feel particularly masochistic soon...

In summary, containing the PDA infection to x86-64 is possible, but
curing that patient is non-trivial 8)

Rusty.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-13  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-08  0:57 _proxy_pda still makes linking modules fail Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2007-03-10 15:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-11 14:06   ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2007-03-12  1:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-12  0:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-12  9:48     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-12 14:45       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-12 15:45         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-12 21:58       ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-13  6:23         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2007-03-13  9:04           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-13 15:31             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-13 23:50               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-14  1:12               ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-13 15:57           ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14  2:17             ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-12 18:47   ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk

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