From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>,
"Shai Fultheim (Shai@scalex86.org)" <shai@scalex86.org>,
pravin b shelar <pravin.shelar@calsoftinc.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Pierre.Peiffer" <Pierre.Peiffer@bull.net>
Subject: Re: Shared futexes (was [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:22:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175865764.6483.190.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461647F5.5040206@yahoo.com.au>
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 23:15 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> >>some thoughts on shared futexes;
> >>
> >>Could we get rid of the mmap_sem on the shared futexes in the following
> >>manner:
>
> I'd imagine shared futexes would be much less common than private for
> threaded programs... I'd say we should reevaluate things once we have
> private futexes, and malloc/free stop hammering mmap_sem so hard...
Indeed, private futexes are by far the most common.
> >> - get a page using pfn_to_page (skipping VM_PFNMAP)
> >> - get the futex key from page->mapping->host and page->index
> >> and offset from addr % PAGE_SIZE.
> >>
> >>or given a key:
> >>
> >> - lookup the page from key.shared.inode->i_mapping by key.shared.pgoff
> >> possibly loading the page using mapping->a_ops->readpage().
>
> For shared futexes, wouldn't i_mapping be worse, because you'd be
> ping-ponging the tree_lock between processes, rather than have each
> use their own mmap_sem?
Your lockless pagecache work would solve most of that, no?
> That also only helps for the wakeup case too, doesn't it? You have
> to use the vmas to find out which inode to use to do the wait, I think?
> (unless you introduce a new shared futex API).
one could do something like this:
struct address_space *mapping = page_mapping(page);
if (!mapping || mapping == &swapper_space)
do_private_futex();
else
do_shared_futex(mapping->host, page->index, addr % PAGE_SIZE);
But alas, it seems I overlooked that the mmap_sem also protects the page
tables as pointed out by Hugh, so this is all in fain it seems.
A well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-06 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-08 7:07 [RFC] NUMA futex hashing Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-08-08 9:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 20:31 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-08-08 9:37 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-08 9:58 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 10:07 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-08 9:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 10:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 12:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 12:47 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 12:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 14:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 15:11 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 15:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 16:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 16:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 16:34 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 16:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:58 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 17:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 1:58 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 6:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 6:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 19:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes, SMP and NUMA improvements Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 20:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-16 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-16 9:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-16 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-16 10:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-16 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 7:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-05 17:49 ` [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 20:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-06 1:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 5:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-06 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 6:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-06 17:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-06 12:26 ` Shared futexes (was [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes) Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-06 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-04-06 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 12:31 ` [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH, take4] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-07 9:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-07 10:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 7:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 8:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:30 ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-04-11 9:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-12 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-07 11:18 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-07 11:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-07 16:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 22:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 9:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 9:19 ` [PATCH, take5] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 12:23 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-26 12:55 ` [PATCH, take6] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-26 13:35 ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-03-15 19:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] FUTEX : introduce PROCESS_PRIVATE semantic Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 19:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] FUTEX : introduce private hashtables Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 20:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 21:09 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-03-15 21:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 22:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-15 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] FUTEX : NUMA friendly global hashtable Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 0:13 ` [RFC] NUMA futex hashing Ravikiran G Thirumalai
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