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From: johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm
To: "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: "Jan Harkes" <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:47:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175953623.20331.1183464796@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070407071535.GD943@1wt.eu>

Hi Willy,...

> With decent CPU, you can reach higher read/write data rates than what a
> single off-the-shelf disk can achieve. For this reason, I think that
> reiser4 would be worth trying for this particular usage.

Glad to see you are willing to give Reiser4 a go.

Good man.

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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:15:35 +0200, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu> said:
> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:58:45PM -0700, johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm
> wrote:
> > You know,... you cut out this bit:
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > > The following benchmarks are from
> > > 
> > > http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm or,
> > > http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm
> 
> ...
> 
> Hey John, please change your disk, it's scratched and you're repeating
> yourself again and again. At first I thought "Oh cool, some good news
> about reiser4", now when I see "reiserfs" in a thread, I think "oh no,
> not this boring guy who escaped from the asylum again !". I hope this
> thread will be cut shortly so that you stop doing bad publicity to
> reiserfs and its developers, because when a product is indicated as
> good by stupid people, it's really doing harm.
> 
> Also, about this part :
> [Jan]
> > > But in the end everything is a tradeoff. You can save diskspace, but
> > > increase the cost of corruption. 
> 
> I don't 100% agree with Jan, because for some usages (temporary space),
> light compression can increase speed. For instance, when processing logs,
> I get better speed by compressing intermediate files with LZO on the fly.
> 
> [John]
> > You deliberately ignored the fact that bad blocks are NOT dealt with by
> > the filesystem,... but by the operating system. Like I said: If your
> > filesystem is writing to bad blocks, then throw away your operating
> > system.
> 
> But what you write here is complete crap. The filesystem relies on a
> linear block device. The operating system is responsible for doing
> read retries or reporting errors on bad blocks, but the FS and only
> the FS can decide how not to use some known defective areas, for
> instance not putting any metadata on them nor any useful data.
> 
> Now if you want to stop writing stupid things again and again, take
> your bag, don't miss the bus to school, and listen to the teachers
> instead of playing games on your calculator.
> 
> Willy
> PS: non need to reply either, I'll kill this thread and your address
> here.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-07 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-05 22:42 REISER4: fix for reiser4_write_extent Ignatich
2007-04-06  0:05 ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  0:23   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  0:34     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  0:39       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  1:34         ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  3:12           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-06  4:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  4:32             ` johnrobertbanks
     [not found]               ` <20070406152119.GC4228@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2007-04-07  2:47                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  3:30                   ` Jan Harkes
2007-04-07  5:58                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:15                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-07 13:47                         ` johnrobertbanks [this message]
2007-04-07 14:11                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 15:07                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:05                           ` Pekka Enberg
2007-04-07 17:10                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08 16:31                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-07 17:21                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  0:41                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 17:39                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-07 19:17               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  0:44                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:27                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  2:56                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08  4:13                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 12:48                       ` Jose Celestino
2007-04-08 13:21                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 14:14                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-08 17:03                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 18:18                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2007-04-08  4:32                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-04-08 21:50                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 22:58                       ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09  5:14                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-09  7:07                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-09 16:10                           ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09 18:35                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Nate Diller
2007-04-07  1:26   ` COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:45     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:57       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:11         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:42     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:02       ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:42         ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-07 12:51 ` REISER4: fix for reiser4_write_extent Laurent Riffard
2007-04-07 19:29   ` Edward Shishkin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-07 12:59 Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Dale Amon
2007-04-07 15:28 ` johnrobertbanks

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