From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965839AbXDGNrG (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:47:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965838AbXDGNrG (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:47:06 -0400 Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:53764 "EHLO out4.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965837AbXDGNrE (ORCPT ); Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:47:04 -0400 Message-Id: <1175953623.20331.1183464796@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: M7OwGIC5E6flEf+XPU3uFPQJaiTmCIGqMztbDd7+LF5H 1175953623 From: johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm To: "Willy Tarreau" Cc: "Jan Harkes" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <461592FB.5060507@zytor.com> <1175819681.20754.1183287946@webmail.messagingengine.com> <461596DE.2020802@zytor.com> <1175823288.25662.1183293506@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4615C780.5040407@zytor.com> <1175833931.8916.1183307802@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20070406152119.GC4228@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu> <1175914056.9653.1183426876@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20070407033049.GI4228@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu> <1175925525.21154.1183436614@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20070407071535.GD943@1wt.eu> Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER. In-Reply-To: <20070407071535.GD943@1wt.eu> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:47:03 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Willy,... > With decent CPU, you can reach higher read/write data rates than what a > single off-the-shelf disk can achieve. For this reason, I think that > reiser4 would be worth trying for this particular usage. Glad to see you are willing to give Reiser4 a go. Good man. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:15:35 +0200, "Willy Tarreau" said: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:58:45PM -0700, johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm > wrote: > > You know,... you cut out this bit: > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > The following benchmarks are from > > > > > > http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm or, > > > http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm > > ... > > Hey John, please change your disk, it's scratched and you're repeating > yourself again and again. At first I thought "Oh cool, some good news > about reiser4", now when I see "reiserfs" in a thread, I think "oh no, > not this boring guy who escaped from the asylum again !". I hope this > thread will be cut shortly so that you stop doing bad publicity to > reiserfs and its developers, because when a product is indicated as > good by stupid people, it's really doing harm. > > Also, about this part : > [Jan] > > > But in the end everything is a tradeoff. You can save diskspace, but > > > increase the cost of corruption. > > I don't 100% agree with Jan, because for some usages (temporary space), > light compression can increase speed. For instance, when processing logs, > I get better speed by compressing intermediate files with LZO on the fly. > > [John] > > You deliberately ignored the fact that bad blocks are NOT dealt with by > > the filesystem,... but by the operating system. Like I said: If your > > filesystem is writing to bad blocks, then throw away your operating > > system. > > But what you write here is complete crap. The filesystem relies on a > linear block device. The operating system is responsible for doing > read retries or reporting errors on bad blocks, but the FS and only > the FS can decide how not to use some known defective areas, for > instance not putting any metadata on them nor any useful data. > > Now if you want to stop writing stupid things again and again, take > your bag, don't miss the bus to school, and listen to the teachers > instead of playing games on your calculator. > > Willy > PS: non need to reply either, I'll kill this thread and your address > here. > -- johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html