From: Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>
To: Donglin Peng <dolinux.peng@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nicolas Schier <nicolas.schier@linux.dev>,
Nick Desaulniers <nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com>,
Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, dwarves@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/4] resolve_btfids: change in-place update with raw binary output
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2025 11:00:51 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175fe21-5c0b-4680-8fa7-55d22e4bcaca@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErzpmsoeFJBhqXZF1ttUCDx5HSFVawdiVfsG2vWSOq4DBBruQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/1/25 6:01 PM, Donglin Peng wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2025 at 3:46 AM Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/27/25 9:52 PM, Ihor Solodrai wrote:
>>> On 11/27/25 7:20 PM, Donglin Peng wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 2:53 AM Ihor Solodrai <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
>>>>> index bac22265e7ff..ec7e2a7721c7 100644
>>>>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
>>>>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
>>>>> @@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ include ../../../scripts/Makefile.arch
>>>>> include ../../../scripts/Makefile.include
>>>>>
>>>>> CXX ?= $(CROSS_COMPILE)g++
>>>>> +OBJCOPY ?= $(CROSS_COMPILE)objcopy
>>>>>
>>>>> CURDIR := $(abspath .)
>>>>> TOOLSDIR := $(abspath ../../..)
>>>>> @@ -716,6 +717,10 @@ $(OUTPUT)/$(TRUNNER_BINARY): $(TRUNNER_TEST_OBJS) \
>>>>> $$(call msg,BINARY,,$$@)
>>>>> $(Q)$$(CC) $$(CFLAGS) $$(filter %.a %.o,$$^) $$(LDLIBS) $$(LLVM_LDLIBS) $$(LDFLAGS) $$(LLVM_LDFLAGS) -o $$@
>>>>> $(Q)$(RESOLVE_BTFIDS) --btf $(TRUNNER_OUTPUT)/btf_data.bpf.o $$@
>>>>> + $(Q)if [ -f $$@.btf_ids ]; then \
>>>>> + $(OBJCOPY) --update-section .BTF_ids=$$@.btf_ids $$@; \
>>>>
>>>> I encountered a resolve_btfids self-test failure when enabling the
>>>> BTF sorting feature, with the following error output:
>>>>
>>>> All error logs:
>>>> resolve_symbols:PASS:resolve 0 nsec
>>>> test_resolve_btfids:PASS:id_check 0 nsec
>>>> test_resolve_btfids:PASS:id_check 0 nsec
>>>> test_resolve_btfids:FAIL:id_check wrong ID for T (7 != 5)
>>>> #369 resolve_btfids:FAIL
>>>>
>>>> The root cause is that prog_tests/resolve_btfids.c retrieves type IDs
>>>> from btf_data.bpf.o and compares them against the IDs in test_progs.
>>>> However, while the IDs in test_progs are sorted, those in btf_data.bpf.o
>>>> remain in their original unsorted state, causing the validation to fail.
>>>>
>>>> This presents two potential solutions:
>>>> 1. Update the relevant .BTF.* section datas in btf_data.bpf.o, including
>>>> the .BTF and .BTF.ext sections
>>>> 2. Modify prog_tests/resolve_btfids.c to retrieve IDs from test_progs.btf
>>>> instead. However, I discovered that test_progs.btf is deleted in the
>>>> subsequent code section.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think of it?
>>>
>>> Within resolve_btfids it's clear that we have to update (sort in this
>>> case) BTF first, and then resolve the ids based on the changed BTF.
>>>
>>> As for the test, we should probably change it to become closer to an
>>> actual resolve_btfids use-case. Maybe even replace or remove it.
>>>
>>> resolve_btfids operates on BTF generated by pahole for
>>> kernel/module. And the .BTF_ids section makes sense only in kernel
>>> space AFAIU (might be wrong, let me know if I am).
>>>
>>> And in this test we are using BTF produced by LLVM for a BPF program,
>>> and then create a .BTF_ids section in a user-space app (test_progs /
>>> resolve_btfids.test.o), although using proper kernel macros.
>>>
>>> By the way, the test was written more than 5y ago [1], so it might be
>>> outdated too.
>>>
>>> I think the behavior that we care about is already indirectly tested
>>> by bpf_testmod module tests, with custom BPF kfuncs and BTF_ID_*
>>> declarations etc. If resolve_btfids is broken, those tests will fail.
>>>
>>> But it's also reasonable to have some tests targeting resolve_btfids
>>> app itself, of course. This one doesn't fit though IMO.
>>>
>>> I'll try to think of something.
>>
>> Hi Donglin,
>>
>> I discussed this off-list with Andrii, and we agreed that the selftest
>> itself is reasonable with respect to testing resolve_btfids output.
>>
>> In this series, I only have to change the test_progs build recipe.
>>
>> The problem that you've encountered I think can be fixed in the test,
>> which is basically what you suggested as option 2:
>>
>> static int resolve_symbols(void)
>> {
>> struct btf *btf;
>> int type_id;
>> __u32 nr;
>>
>> btf = btf__parse_elf("btf_data.bpf.o", NULL); /* <--- this */
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Instead of reading in the source BTF, we have to load .btf produced by
>> resolve_btfids. A complication is that it's going to be a different
>> file for every TRUNNER_BINARY, which has to be accounted for, although
>> the BTF itself would be identical between relevant runners.
>>
>> If go this route, I think we should add .btf cleanup to the Makefile
>> and update local .gitignore
>
> Thanks, could the following modification be accepted?
>
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/.gitignore
> b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/.gitignore
> index be1ee7ba7ce0..38ac369cd701 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/.gitignore
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/.gitignore
> @@ -45,3 +45,4 @@ xdp_synproxy
> xdp_hw_metadata
> xdp_features
> verification_cert.h
> +*.btf
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
> b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
> index 2a027ff9ceaf..a1188129229f 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/Makefile
> @@ -720,7 +720,7 @@ $(OUTPUT)/$(TRUNNER_BINARY): $(TRUNNER_TEST_OBJS)
> \
> $(Q)if [ -f $$@.btf_ids ]; then \
> $(OBJCOPY) --update-section .BTF_ids=$$@.btf_ids $$@; \
> fi
> - $(Q)rm -f $$@.btf_ids $$@.btf
> + $(Q)rm -f $$@.btf_ids
> $(Q)ln -sf $(if $2,..,.)/tools/build/bpftool/$(USE_BOOTSTRAP)bpftool \
> $(OUTPUT)/$(if $2,$2/)bpftool
>
> @@ -908,7 +908,7 @@ EXTRA_CLEAN := $(SCRATCH_DIR) $(HOST_SCRATCH_DIR)
> \
> prog_tests/tests.h map_tests/tests.h verifier/tests.h \
> feature bpftool $(TEST_KMOD_TARGETS) \
> $(addprefix $(OUTPUT)/,*.o *.d *.skel.h *.lskel.h *.subskel.h \
> - no_alu32 cpuv4 bpf_gcc \
> + *.btf no_alu32 cpuv4 bpf_gcc \
> liburandom_read.so) \
> $(OUTPUT)/FEATURE-DUMP.selftests
>
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/resolve_btfids.c
> b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/resolve_btfids.c
> index 51544372f52e..00883ff16569 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/resolve_btfids.c
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/resolve_btfids.c
> @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ static int resolve_symbols(void)
> int type_id;
> __u32 nr;
>
> - btf = btf__parse_elf("btf_data.bpf.o", NULL);
> + btf = btf__parse_raw("test_progs.btf");
We can't hardcode a filename here, because $(OUTPUT)/$(TRUNNER_BINARY)
is a generic rule for a number of different binaries (test_progs,
test_maps, test_progs-no_alu32 and others).
I think there are a few options how to deal with this:
- generate .btf and .btf_ids not for the final TRUNNER_BINARY, but for
a specific test object (resolve_btfids.test.o in this case); then we
could load "resolve_btfids.test.o.btf"
- implement an --output-btf option in resolve_btfids
- somehow (env var?) determine what binary is running in the test
- (a hack) in the makefile, copy $@.btf to "test.btf" or similar
IMO the first option is the best, as this makefile code exists because
of that specific test.
The --output-btf is okay in principle, but I don't like the idea of
adding a cli option that would be used only for one selftest.
> if (CHECK(libbpf_get_error(btf), "resolve",
> "Failed to load BTF from btf_data.bpf.o\n"))
> return -1;
>
> Thanks,
> Donglin
>
>>
>> This change is not strictly necessary in this series, but it is for
>> the BTF sorting series. Let me know if you would like to take this on,
>> so we don't do the same work twice.
>
> Thanks, I will take it on.
Thank you. I think that'll be a patch in the BTF sorting series.
You can work on top of this (v2) series for now. The feedback so far has
been mostly nits, and I don't expect overall approach to change in v3.
>
>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20200703095111.3268961-10-jolsa@kernel.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donglin
>>>>
>>>>> + fi
>>>>> + $(Q)rm -f $$@.btf_ids $$@.btf
>>>>> $(Q)ln -sf $(if $2,..,.)/tools/build/bpftool/$(USE_BOOTSTRAP)bpftool \
>>>>> $(OUTPUT)/$(if $2,$2/)bpftool
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> 2.52.0
>>>>>
>>>
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-02 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-27 18:52 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/4] resolve_btfids: Support for BTF modifications Ihor Solodrai
2025-11-27 18:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/4] resolve_btfids: rename object btf field to btf_path Ihor Solodrai
2025-11-27 18:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/4] resolve_btfids: factor out load_btf() Ihor Solodrai
2025-11-27 18:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/4] resolve_btfids: introduce enum btf_id_kind Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-01 17:27 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-12-02 19:08 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-04 0:42 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-12-04 4:35 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-01 18:27 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-11-27 18:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/4] resolve_btfids: change in-place update with raw binary output Ihor Solodrai
2025-11-28 3:20 ` Donglin Peng
2025-11-28 5:52 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-01 19:46 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-02 2:01 ` Donglin Peng
2025-12-02 19:00 ` Ihor Solodrai [this message]
2025-12-03 9:14 ` Donglin Peng
2025-12-03 10:42 ` Donglin Peng
2025-12-04 0:46 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-12-04 3:28 ` Donglin Peng
2025-12-01 19:55 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-04 5:13 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-04 16:57 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-04 17:29 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-04 18:06 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-04 19:04 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-04 19:14 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-12-01 22:16 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-12-03 18:48 ` Alan Maguire
2025-12-04 4:42 ` Ihor Solodrai
2025-12-06 5:08 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-16 20:41 ` Ihor Solodrai
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