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From: johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm
To: "Richard Knutsson" <ricknu-0@student.ltu.se>
Cc: "Christer Weinigel" <christer@weinigel.se>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:14:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1176095658.16239.1183614988@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461973AD.5060906@student.ltu.se>

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:58:53 +0200, "Richard Knutsson"
<ricknu-0@student.ltu.se> said:
> Wow, I'm impressed. Think you got the record on how many mails you 
> referenced to in a reply... 

TWO actually. I guess you are easily impressed.

A simple cut and paste error.

> You have got some rude answers and you have called them back on it 

Yeah, I (fairly closely) mimicked their behavior to make a point.

> + you have repeated the same statement several times, that is 
> not the best way of convincing people.

I know you DON'T believe that, as you are about the tenth person to
repeat that "repeating stuff has no effect."

> I believe you picked up the "anti-Reiser religion"-phrase from previous 
> rant-wars (otherwise, why does that "religion"-phrase always come up, 
> and (almost) only when dealing with Reiser-fs), and yes, there has been 
> some clashes caused by both sides, so please be careful when dealing 
> with this matter.

NO. You people simply come across as zealots who work together, against
Reiser4.

Hence the term "anti-Reiser religion."

> Would you be willing to benchmark Reiser4 with some compressed 
> binary-blob and show the time as well as the CPU-usage? 

I might be. I don't really know how to set it all up.

Perhaps if you guided me through it.

> >
> > You deliberately ignored the fact that bad blocks are NOT dealt with by
> > the filesystem,... but by the operating system. Like I said: If your
> > filesystem is writing to bad blocks, then throw away your operating
> > system.
> >   

> I may have missed something, but if my room-mate took my harddrive, 
> screwed it open, wrote a love-letter on the disk with a pencil and then 
> returned it (ok, there may be some more plausible reasons for 
> corruption), is the OS really suppose to handle it? 

Yeah, I can't see how the OS could read the love-letter either.

But one thing is for sure. The FS ain't responsible for reading it.

> Yes, it should not 
> assign any new data to those blocks but should it not also fall into the 
> file-systems domain to be able to restore some/all data?

It's a tough ask of any FS. 

Microsoft's filesystem checker totally roasted all my data on an XP-box
last night. 

I had used ntfsresize to reduce the partition size and had a power
outage. 

Later, Windows booted, ran the filesystem checker, seemed OK. 

Next time I boot, all I get is Input/Output error.

> 
> Just my 2c to the pond
> Richard Knutsson
> 
Addin my 2c
John.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-09  5:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-05 22:42 REISER4: fix for reiser4_write_extent Ignatich
2007-04-06  0:05 ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  0:23   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  0:34     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  0:39       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  1:34         ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER johnrobertbanks
2007-04-06  3:12           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-06  4:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06  4:32             ` johnrobertbanks
     [not found]               ` <20070406152119.GC4228@delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu>
2007-04-07  2:47                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  3:30                   ` Jan Harkes
2007-04-07  5:58                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:15                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-07 13:47                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 14:11                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 15:07                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:05                           ` Pekka Enberg
2007-04-07 17:10                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08 16:31                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-07 17:21                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  0:41                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-07 17:39                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-07 19:17               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  0:44                 ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:27                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-08  2:56                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08  4:13                     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 12:48                       ` Jose Celestino
2007-04-08 13:21                         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 14:14                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-08 17:03                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-08 18:18                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2007-04-08  4:32                   ` Christer Weinigel
2007-04-08 21:50                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08 22:58                       ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09  5:14                         ` johnrobertbanks [this message]
2007-04-09  7:07                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-09 16:10                           ` Richard Knutsson
2007-04-09 18:35                     ` Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER Nate Diller
2007-04-07  1:26   ` COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07  7:45     ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:57       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:11         ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-07 16:42     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-08  1:02       ` johnrobertbanks
2007-04-08  1:42         ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-07 12:51 ` REISER4: fix for reiser4_write_extent Laurent Riffard
2007-04-07 19:29   ` Edward Shishkin

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