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From: Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>
To: "David R. Litwin" <presently42@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:34:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1176658445.25810.3.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.tqththp8ftfxs2@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 04:57 -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> On 15/04/07,  Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 19:18 -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> 
> > By the way, forget about this FUSE business. I don't know why they're
> > bothering: It's not real, it's slow and, in general, silly.
> This seems to me to be a rather uninformed, arrogant, and quite stupid
> comment.
> 
> Thank you, sir, for calling my comment stupid. Perhaps you are one of  
> those FUSE folk. In that case, I would love for you to enlighten
> me as to why any one would bother attempting to port a file system when it  
> is known that not only is it much slower than the slowest
> currently available to Linux, but also does not provide much of the  
> functionality of the original product.
Well first off, i dont believe anyone has ever prooved that an fuse
filesystem on linux is inheritly much slower than the slowest filesystem
on linux, in fact i believe this to be very far from the truth, and even
if you are not able to squeeze the last bits of efficiency out, i doubt
that its gonna be the cpu overhead that will kill your IO performance.
ZFS-on-FUSE may not have all the features now, it may not ever get them,
but its far from pointless, but whats even more pointless and silly, is
you blindly acknowledging that you are uninformed and seeking
information (which is okay enough), but at the same time calls stuff
silly and unreal.

> 
> As to uninformed, well, yes, I am uninformed; hence my request for you to  
> inform me. And arrogant? I sure am.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-15 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-15  8:57 ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea David R. Litwin
2007-04-15 17:34 ` Kasper Sandberg [this message]
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2007-04-17  8:42 David R. Litwin
2007-04-17  6:54 David R. Litwin
2007-04-17  8:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 13:10 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-17 13:47   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 13:59     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-17 15:46       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 15:59         ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 16:29         ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 19:58           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 22:19             ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 22:12               ` David Lang
2007-04-17 22:52                 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 22:38               ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-17 14:06     ` Erik Mouw
2007-04-17 14:32     ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-17 15:41       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 16:02         ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-17 14:37     ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-17 14:48     ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 15:06       ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 15:23         ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-17 15:30           ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 15:36             ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 16:02       ` Mike Snitzer
2007-04-17 16:57       ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-04-18 11:10       ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-18 11:23         ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 11:32           ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-17 16:22     ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 17:50       ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-17 19:24         ` Florian Weimer
2007-04-17 19:56           ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 20:05             ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 14:59   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-17 15:08     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-17 15:12       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-17 15:29     ` Michal Schmidt
2007-04-15  8:54 David R. Litwin
2007-04-16  0:50 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-16  3:07   ` David Chinner
2007-04-14 17:40 Ignatich
2007-04-15 12:44 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-17 14:14   ` Alan Cox
2007-04-13 23:18 David R. Litwin
2007-04-13 23:43 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-14 12:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-14 14:04   ` Mike Snitzer
2007-04-14 20:53     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16  9:40       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 11:19         ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-16 14:02         ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-16 14:20           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 14:55             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 15:46               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 15:59                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 19:02                 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-16 20:18                   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-18 17:25                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-18 17:39                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-27  5:21                       ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 21:57                         ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-16 19:46                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-16 18:19             ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-16 19:21               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-16 19:26                 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-16 20:20                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-16 20:15                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-14 21:13     ` Bill Huey
2007-04-16  9:58     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
     [not found]       ` <170fa0d20704160507w4af4cb92ua259a55789f95c3e@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-16 14:01         ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 14:30           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-16 15:27             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 17:21               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-14 18:56   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-16  3:00     ` David Chinner
2007-04-15  4:16 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-15 21:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-02 15:03 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-05-02 15:42   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-02 20:53     ` Theodore Tso

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