From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754512AbXDZBZY (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:25:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754638AbXDZBZY (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:25:24 -0400 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]:46028 "EHLO py-out-1112.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754512AbXDZBZX (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:25:23 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wd8R89Q20wIyLYvyyeBtZ05LxM6HQMIYEEf0q/zcKjZPk5Ajm37IsopJ+jy9jKEklAOLbRQF8X03fPEJcrYE5v8b+8RNB9A3ePC4k+WgE7N8W/qFSGAkfs4QPcJK1h7CgkDqaXDjYdre/zV1vIJuoKZ4iaijxpddfOS+LXz9JNE= Subject: Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) From: "Antonino A. Daplas" To: Adrian Bunk Cc: Linus Torvalds , Pavel Machek , Ingo Molnar , Nigel Cunningham , Christian Hesse , Nick Piggin , Mike Galbraith , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas , suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner , Arjan van de Ven In-Reply-To: <20070425192512.GZ3468@stusta.de> References: <20070419070437.GA25211@elte.hu> <20070424202336.GC16503@elf.ucw.cz> <20070424212408.GD16457@elf.ucw.cz> <20070425072350.GA6866@ucw.cz> <20070425151825.GW3468@stusta.de> <20070425173405.GE17074@elf.ucw.cz> <20070425183934.GX3468@stusta.de> <20070425192512.GZ3468@stusta.de> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:25:02 +0800 Message-Id: <1177550702.4685.10.camel@daplas> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 21:25 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 11:50:45AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > > 3W for the complete system? In CPU state S1? [1] > > > > In STR, 3W is quite realistic. The CPU is off, all (or most - up to you) > > the devices are off, but the motherboard and memory is powered. > > As far as I understand it, the CPU isn't off in S1. > > > > And even 3W would still be a waste of energy. It is, especially if you're living in a place where power infrastructure is unreliable (such as where I live). Currently, because of the summer heat, power demand exceeds power supply so we experience practically daily rotating 4-hour power interruption. That 3W saved multiplied by the total number of computers is a lot. In this perspective, S2D (or shutdown) is preferred over S2RAM. Tony