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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Trent Piepho <xyzzy@speakeasy.org>,
	v4l-dvb maintainer list <v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [PATCH 35/36] Use menuconfig objects II - DVB
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 15:38:21 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1178217501.12651.153.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0705031453360.18504@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

Em Qui, 2007-05-03 às 14:54 +0200, Jan Engelhardt escreveu:
> On May 3 2007 09:37, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >Trent is mentioning an out-of-tree building system to allow easier
> >testing of V4L/DVB patches by end users and developers and during driver
> >development time. The building system allows faster
> >compilation/linkedition during driver development, by allowing you to
> >use:
> >	make menuconfig/qconfig/xconfig
> >
> >inside the tree, unselecting the drivers that you're not working.
> 
> Is that all? Because you can do
> 
>   make drivers/media/video/
> 
> today and it will only build that directory (or even
> drivers/media/video/foo.o) to only do that one.

I know. Use this procedure also. This is a very nice feature for kernel
developers.

However, you cannot use this procedure at the newest kernel to generate
a foo.ko driver for an older kernel. Using the out-of-tree building
system allows to compile also against older kernel versions, helping us
to receive more feedback from end users. 

This is important for V4L/DVB development, since there are a number of
normal users that just bought a new video capture board or webcam and
want to compile the newest driver, without risking on compiling the
entire kernel, and selecting several items they don't understand.

There are more than 500 different supported boards, with lots of
different variations. Probably, there are more board variations than
subscribed users at V4L ML. Believe-me, it is not easy to find people
with all those variations, asking they to replace their kernels to the
newest version, although this is the recommended way.

So, it is important to have an easy procedure for they to test V4L/DVB.

They just need to clone the tree or retrieve a tarball, and do "make;
make install" (providing that the kernel were compiled with modules
option enabled). Advanced users may also do "make menuconfig" to select
just the driver for his board. They don't need to touch on other kernel
parameters.

Anyway, Trent's wrote a fix for our building system, adding the missing
Kconfig vocabulary used on drivers/media Kconfig.

-- 
Cheers,
Mauro


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-03 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-30 11:03 [PATCH 00/36] Use menuconfig objects II - (overview) Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:20 ` [PATCH 01/36] Use menuconfig objects I.b - block Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:20 ` [PATCH 02/36] Use menuconfig objects II - auxdisplay Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:21 ` [PATCH 03/36] Use menuconfig objects II - battery Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:22 ` [PATCH 04/36] Use menuconfig objects II - block devices Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:24 ` [PATCH 05/36] Use menuconfig objects II - EDAC Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:26 ` [PATCH 06/36] Use menuconfig objects II - fusion Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:27 ` [PATCH 07/36] Use menuconfig objects II - HID Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:28 ` [PATCH 08/36] Use menuconfig objects II - hwmon Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 16:58   ` Jean Delvare
2007-04-30 11:29 ` [PATCH 09/36] Use menuconfig objects II - IEEE1394 Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:32 ` [PATCH 10/36] Use menuconfig objects II - Infiniband Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:33 ` [PATCH 11/36] Use menuconfig objects II - IPMI Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 14:43   ` Corey Minyard
2007-04-30 11:35 ` [PATCH 12/36] Use menuconfig objects II - ISDN Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:35 ` [PATCH 13/36] Use menuconfig objects II - KVM/Virt Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 13:45   ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-30 11:36 ` [PATCH 14/36] Use menuconfig objects II - LED Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:37 ` [PATCH 15/36] Use menuconfig objects II - Macintosh Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:38 ` [PATCH 16/36] Use menuconfig objects II - MD Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:40 ` [PATCH 17/36] Use menuconfig objects II - misc strange dev Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:40 ` [PATCH 18/36] Use menuconfig objects II - MMC Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 13:51   ` Pierre Ossman
2007-05-01 15:57   ` Pierre Ossman
2007-05-01 20:37     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-02  5:19       ` Pierre Ossman
2007-05-02 17:47         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:41 ` [PATCH 19/36] Use menuconfig objects II - module menu Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:43 ` [PATCH 20/36] Use menuconfig objects II - netdev (general+100mbit) Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:44 ` [PATCH 21/36] Use menuconfig objects II - netdev/atm Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:45 ` [PATCH 22/36] Use menuconfig objects II - netdev/pcmcia Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:45 ` [PATCH 23/36] Use menuconfig objects II - netdev/wan Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-01 20:04   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-30 11:46 ` [PATCH 24/36] Use menuconfig objects II - oprofile Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:48 ` [PATCH 25/36] Use menuconfig objects II - (external_)power Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:49 ` [PATCH 26/36] Use menuconfig objects II - RTC Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:50 ` [PATCH 27/36] Use menuconfig objects II - SCSI Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:52 ` [PATCH 28/36] Use menuconfig objects II - sound Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 14:19   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 14:25     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 14:45     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 14:55       ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 15:12     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 15:14       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 15:21   ` [PATCH 28/36 #2] " Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 15:41     ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 16:13       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:53 ` [PATCH 29/36] Use menuconfig objects II - Telephony Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:53 ` [PATCH 30/36] Use menuconfig objects II - TPM Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:54 ` [PATCH 31/36] Use menuconfig objects II - UIO Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:55 ` [PATCH 32/36] Use menuconfig objects II - USB Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 11:56 ` [PATCH 33/36] Use menuconfig objects II - video/logo Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-01  0:08   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-04-30 11:56 ` [PATCH 34/36] Use menuconfig objects II - watchdog Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 12:30 ` [PATCH 35/36] Use menuconfig objects II - DVB Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-02 18:10   ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-02 21:38     ` Trent Piepho
2007-05-03  6:56       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 12:37         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-03 12:54           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 18:38             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2007-05-03 20:39             ` Trent Piepho
2007-05-03 20:49               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-04  0:28                 ` Roman Zippel
2007-05-04  1:40                   ` Trent Piepho
2007-05-04  7:46                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 20:50               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-03 20:53               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 12:30 ` [PATCH 36/36] Use menuconfig objects II - V4L Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-02 18:03   ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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