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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
To: Thierry Merle <thierry.merle@free.fr>
Cc: video4linux-list@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] V4L: stk11xx, add a new webcam driver
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:31:56 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1180467116.9509.73.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <465C7920.2080203@free.fr>

Em Ter, 2007-05-29 às 21:04 +0200, Thierry Merle escreveu:
> 
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab a écrit :
> >   
> >   
> >>> Hi Mauro and Markus,
> >>> Just to summ up what I understood we need:
> >>>
> >>> What do we need in userspace, only for v4l (dvb is not concerned):
> >>> - colorspace translations
> >>> - filters that be done in hardware if the selected hardware can, 
> >>> otherwise software plugin
> >>> - decompression algorithm like stk11xx or usbvision (the decompression 
> >>> algorithm is in kernelspace since it is of linear complexity but shall 
> >>> be moved to userspace)
> >>>       
> >
> > Yes. The first focus, IMO, should be the last one.
> >
> >   
> 
> OK, so we must open the V4L2 API to add a custom pixel format.
I don't think we need to change the API. The API already exports the
format, as a fourcc-like info. We just need to add newer codes as
they'll be added into kernel.

> While brainstorming, I thought it would be funny to create userspace 
> drivers like FUSE based projects do.
> Applications would see nothing but a new device driver to access, all 
> decompression algorithm would be in userspace.
> The path from the application to the v4l2 kernel driver:
> [Application]<->[/mnt/video0 (created by FUSE-like userspace 
> lib)]<->[/dev/video0 (created by kernel v4l2 driver)]
> There are limitations that I don't know, but this would be transparent 
> for the applications.

This seems to be an interesting approach.

> > Yes, it is possible. In fact, some devices currently work by generating
> > a common audio and video stream. The driver may just send the packet
> > as-is, leaving to the userspace API the function to de-merge and
> > synchronize audio and video.
> >   
> So we have a userspace lib that will demux/uncompress device driver output.
> This lib will know each device driver particularities to know how to 
> demux/uncompress in a a/v format that will be understood by the application.

Yes. However, we should try to do loose coupling whenever possible, to
keep maintainership of the "library"(*) as simple as possible.

(*) With this approach, it seems that it will turn into a helper daemon,
instead of just a library.

Cheers,
Mauro


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-24 14:01 [PATCH 1/1] V4L: stk11xx, add a new webcam driver Jiri Slaby
2007-05-24 14:24 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-24 15:07   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-28 15:21     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-24 23:07   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-25  8:22     ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25  8:30       ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-24 17:38 ` Diego Calleja
2007-05-24 18:01   ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-05-25  8:19     ` Stefan Richter
     [not found]       ` <4af2d03a0705250127j3d05cd6bkb114cad0e6ecb449@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-25  9:50         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-28 15:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-28 15:14   ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-28 16:28     ` Luca Risolia
2007-05-28 16:42       ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-28 18:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-28 19:17       ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-28 20:11         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-28 21:30           ` Thierry Merle
2007-05-29  5:32             ` Thierry Merle
2007-05-29 14:25               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-05-29 19:04                 ` Thierry Merle
2007-05-29 19:31                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2007-05-31 20:43                     ` Thierry Merle
2007-06-01 23:10                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-06-02  9:00                         ` Thierry Merle
2007-06-04 18:55                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-06-15 21:08                             ` Jiri Slaby
2007-06-16 11:46                               ` Thierry Merle
2007-06-16 12:07                                 ` Jiri Slaby
     [not found]                               ` <200706190941.47459.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-06-19  7:44                                 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-30 19:44   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-06-01 23:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-26 14:09 Jiri Slaby
2007-08-27 22:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28  5:33   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-08-28  5:36     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-28  5:41       ` Jiri Slaby
2007-08-28  6:35 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-11-06  7:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-06 10:48   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-11-07 17:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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