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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] lockstat: core infrastructure
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 19:16:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1180545380.2958.1.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180544796.32594.184.camel@imap.mvista.com>

On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 10:06 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 15:49 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > [...] We can argue that sched_clock is "good enough".  If someone 
> > > wants better accounting of locks on some other arch, they can simply 
> > > change sched_clock to be more precise.
> > 
> > exactly. Imprecise sched_clock() if there's a better fast clock source 
> > available is a bug in the architecture code. If the only available 
> > clocksource is 1 msec resolution then there's no solution and nothing to 
> > talk about - lock statistics will be 1msec granular just as much as 
> > scheduling.
> 
> 
> I don't agree .. sched_clock() is obsoleted by timekeepings clocksource
> structure.. sched_clock() was a quick way to get lowlevel time stamps
> just for the scheduler. The timekeeping clocksource structure is a more
> complete solution.
> 
> >From the architecture perspective there are two low level clock hooks to
> implement one is sched_clock() , and at least one clocksource structure.
> Both do essentially the same thing. With timekeepings clocksource
> structure actually being easier to implement cause the math is built in.

I think you are mistaken here; the two are similar but not identical.

I see sched_clock() as fast first, accurate second. Whereas the
clocksource thing is accurate first, fast second.

There is room for both of them.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-30 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-29 12:52 [PATCH 0/5] lock contention tracking -v3 Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] fix raw_spinlock_t vs lockdep Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] lockdep: sanitise CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 13:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-29 14:16     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30  3:14       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] lockstat: core infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 20:28   ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-30 13:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-30 13:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 13:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-05-30 13:49         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 17:06           ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-30 17:16             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-05-30 17:25               ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 13:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 15:26                   ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 15:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-01 16:11                       ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 18:30                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 19:25                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 19:30                           ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 18:43                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-01 18:51                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 19:30                           ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 18:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 19:30                       ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 14:25                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-30 15:20       ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-30  3:43   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] lockstat: human readability tweaks Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 5/5] lockstat: hook into spinlock_t, rwlock_t, rwsem and mutex Peter Zijlstra

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