From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] lockstat: core infrastructure
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 19:16:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1180545380.2958.1.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180544796.32594.184.camel@imap.mvista.com>
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 10:06 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 15:49 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > > [...] We can argue that sched_clock is "good enough". If someone
> > > wants better accounting of locks on some other arch, they can simply
> > > change sched_clock to be more precise.
> >
> > exactly. Imprecise sched_clock() if there's a better fast clock source
> > available is a bug in the architecture code. If the only available
> > clocksource is 1 msec resolution then there's no solution and nothing to
> > talk about - lock statistics will be 1msec granular just as much as
> > scheduling.
>
>
> I don't agree .. sched_clock() is obsoleted by timekeepings clocksource
> structure.. sched_clock() was a quick way to get lowlevel time stamps
> just for the scheduler. The timekeeping clocksource structure is a more
> complete solution.
>
> >From the architecture perspective there are two low level clock hooks to
> implement one is sched_clock() , and at least one clocksource structure.
> Both do essentially the same thing. With timekeepings clocksource
> structure actually being easier to implement cause the math is built in.
I think you are mistaken here; the two are similar but not identical.
I see sched_clock() as fast first, accurate second. Whereas the
clocksource thing is accurate first, fast second.
There is room for both of them.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-30 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-29 12:52 [PATCH 0/5] lock contention tracking -v3 Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] fix raw_spinlock_t vs lockdep Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] lockdep: sanitise CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-29 14:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 3:14 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] lockstat: core infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 20:28 ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-30 13:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-30 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 13:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-05-30 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 17:06 ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-30 17:16 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-05-30 17:25 ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 13:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 15:26 ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-01 16:11 ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 18:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 19:25 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 19:30 ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 18:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-06-01 18:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 19:30 ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-01 19:30 ` Daniel Walker
2007-06-01 14:25 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-30 15:20 ` Daniel Walker
2007-05-30 3:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] lockstat: human readability tweaks Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-29 12:52 ` [PATCH 5/5] lockstat: hook into spinlock_t, rwlock_t, rwsem and mutex Peter Zijlstra
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