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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:52:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1181101920.31677.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706052022430.23673@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com>

> That'd be a limitation. Like you can choose to not handle SEGV, you can 
> choose to have a signalfd listening to it. Of course, not with the 
> intention to *handle* the signal, but with a notification intent.

Hrm.. either you handle it or you are dead ... I fail to see how
signalfd can sneak in to catch it just at the right time...

> > I'm actually thinking we shoud -also- only handle shared signals in
> > dequeue_signal() when called from a different task.
> 
> Why do you want to impose this? signalfd is a "sniffer", and the user 
> controls what it can dequeue/sniff or what not. I don't see a reason of 
> imposing such limits, unless there're clear technical issues.

Well, a synchronous signal such a SIGSEGV, SIGILL or SIGFPE generally
means that execution cannot continue unless the signal handler does
something about it...

I think you are opening a whole can of worms here.

> > Well.. you certainly need to instanciate a signalfd for every thread in
> > the process if you want to get shared signals for sure.
> 
> Why? Or better, what do you mean for "instanciate"?

Well, because the kernel makes the decision of which thread to target
the signal for a shared signal at emission time (though it -can- be
caught by another thread).

/me reads more code to be sure..

Oh well, a read from signalfd created on one thread -will- catch any
shared signal that was already pending, whatever thread the kernel
decided to target it at, it seems (that is, whatever thread actually got
TIF_SIGPENDING set), but will only catch private signals for _that_
thread (and I still think catching private signals is a wrong thing).

However, I'm not sure about the wakeup condition. signalfd_deliver will
wakeup anybody in the signalfd_list, which is -not- whoever is blocked
in signalfd_read() unless I'm missing something.

For your scheme to work, signalfd_read() you probably need to keep a
separate list of people to be nofified of signals and add current to it
from signalfd_list().

Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-06  3:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-05  1:25 [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05  1:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-05  2:10   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05  2:38     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-05  3:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05  6:09         ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-05  7:27           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 23:51             ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06  0:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06  0:11               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06  0:15                 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06  0:37                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06  0:58                     ` signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes) Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06  2:50                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06  3:29                         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06  3:37                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-06  4:08                             ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06  4:18                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06  4:35                             ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06  6:47                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06 22:36                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06  3:52                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-06-06 12:52                         ` Jeff Dike
2007-06-06 22:43                           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-06-07  2:20                             ` Jeff Dike
2007-06-07  3:29                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-07 13:59                                 ` Jeff Dike
2007-06-07  3:21                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 15:52     ` [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes Davide Libenzi
2007-06-05 22:15       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 22:50         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-05 22:59           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06  0:11             ` Davide Libenzi

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