From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes)
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:52:00 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1181101920.31677.172.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706052022430.23673@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com>
> That'd be a limitation. Like you can choose to not handle SEGV, you can
> choose to have a signalfd listening to it. Of course, not with the
> intention to *handle* the signal, but with a notification intent.
Hrm.. either you handle it or you are dead ... I fail to see how
signalfd can sneak in to catch it just at the right time...
> > I'm actually thinking we shoud -also- only handle shared signals in
> > dequeue_signal() when called from a different task.
>
> Why do you want to impose this? signalfd is a "sniffer", and the user
> controls what it can dequeue/sniff or what not. I don't see a reason of
> imposing such limits, unless there're clear technical issues.
Well, a synchronous signal such a SIGSEGV, SIGILL or SIGFPE generally
means that execution cannot continue unless the signal handler does
something about it...
I think you are opening a whole can of worms here.
> > Well.. you certainly need to instanciate a signalfd for every thread in
> > the process if you want to get shared signals for sure.
>
> Why? Or better, what do you mean for "instanciate"?
Well, because the kernel makes the decision of which thread to target
the signal for a shared signal at emission time (though it -can- be
caught by another thread).
/me reads more code to be sure..
Oh well, a read from signalfd created on one thread -will- catch any
shared signal that was already pending, whatever thread the kernel
decided to target it at, it seems (that is, whatever thread actually got
TIF_SIGPENDING set), but will only catch private signals for _that_
thread (and I still think catching private signals is a wrong thing).
However, I'm not sure about the wakeup condition. signalfd_deliver will
wakeup anybody in the signalfd_list, which is -not- whoever is blocked
in signalfd_read() unless I'm missing something.
For your scheme to work, signalfd_read() you probably need to keep a
separate list of people to be nofified of signals and add current to it
from signalfd_list().
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-06 3:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-05 1:25 [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 1:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-05 2:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 2:38 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-05 3:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 6:09 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-05 7:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 23:51 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06 0:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06 0:11 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06 0:15 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06 0:37 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06 0:58 ` signalfd API issues (was Re: [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes) Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06 2:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06 3:29 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06 3:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-06 4:08 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-06-06 4:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06 4:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06 6:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06 22:36 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-06 3:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-06-06 12:52 ` Jeff Dike
2007-06-06 22:43 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-06-07 2:20 ` Jeff Dike
2007-06-07 3:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-07 13:59 ` Jeff Dike
2007-06-07 3:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 15:52 ` [PATCH/RFC] signal races/bugs, losing TIF_SIGPENDING and other woes Davide Libenzi
2007-06-05 22:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-05 22:50 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-05 22:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-06 0:11 ` Davide Libenzi
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