From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933299AbXGKWFF (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:05:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1763928AbXGKWEx (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:04:53 -0400 Received: from www.osadl.org ([213.239.205.134]:51124 "EHLO mail.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1763750AbXGKWEv (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:04:51 -0400 Subject: Re: x86 status was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.23 From: Thomas Gleixner To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Ingo Molnar , Andi Kleen , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arjan van de Ven , Chris Wright In-Reply-To: References: <20070710013152.ef2cd200.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20070711174252.GA16793@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:04:48 +0200 Message-Id: <1184191488.12353.160.camel@chaos> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 (2.10.1-4.fc7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus, On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 14:42 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Here's a big clue: it doesn't matter one _whit_ how much face-slapping you > get, or how much effort some programmers have put into the code. It's > untested. And no, we are *not* going to do another "rip everything out, > and replace it with new code" again. > > Over my dead body. > > We're going to do this thing gradually, or not at all. Can you please shed some light on me, how exactly you switch an architecture gradually to clock events. You simply can not convert PIT today and the HPET next week followed by the local APIC in three month. At least not to my knowledge. > And if somebody feels slighted by the face-slap, and thinks he has already > done enough, and isn't interested in doing it gradually, then good > riddance. The "not at all" seems like a good idea, and maybe we can > re-visit this in a year or two. I have no problem to brew this for some more time. I got not repulsed by the 2.6.20 decision, but I have no clue how to communicate with a black hole. tglx