From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:55:54 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1184410554.1898.84.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707141159.47289.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 11:59 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hibernating process:
> >
> > 1. Normal kernel running
> > 2. Hibernating is triggered, sys_kexec_load is used to load
> > hibernating kernel and initramfs into memory. Then
> > sys_reboot(LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_KSPAWN) is invoked.
> > 3. In sys_reboot, kexec_jump is called to save device/CPU state,
> > then relocate_kernel is called. kexec_jump and relocate_kernel
> > reside in individual page in 16M~512M.
>
> OK
> What's going to happen to devices at this point?
>
The devices should be quiesced and the state of devices should be saved
in kexec_jump, before relocate_kernel is called. This needs the
implementation of device hibernating as you mentioned before.
> > 4. In relocate_kernel, 0~16M is backupped firstly, then the
> > hibernating kernel and initramfs is copied to 0~16M, after that,
> > the hibernating kernel is booted.
> > 5. In hibernating kernel, the memory of normal kernel (it is in
> > 16M~512M) is saved into a hibernation image through /dev/mem
> > and ELF header.
>
> I don't think it can be _that_ simple:
> (a) what about processes' memory
> (b) what about areas that shouldn't be saved?
The mem_map (struct page[]) of every zone of hibernated kernel is
checked. Necessary pages are saved, like memory snapshot of software
suspend, but in user space.
> > Resume process:
> >
> > 1. Resuming kernel is booted as a normal kernel, but the memory is
> > restricted to 0~16M.
> > 2. Checking whether there is a effective hibernation image. If
> > there isn't, the memory of 16M~512M is hot added, and the normal
> > boot up process continues; If there is, a resuming process is
> > triggered.
> > 3. sys_kexec_load is used to restore the memory state of hibernated
> > kernel. The sys_kexec_load works in crashdump way, that is, the
> > hibernation image is copied to destination location in 16M~512M
> > in sys_kexec_load instead of relocate_kernel. There is no half
> > of memory size restriction.
> > 4. sys_reboot is called to trigger jumping back, which will jump back
> > to kexec_jump of hibernated kernel.
> > 5. In kexec_jump of hibernated kernel, the memory of 0~16M is copied
> > back from the backup area in 16M~512M. The memory state of
> > hibernated kernel is restored totally. The CPU and device state
> > can be restored after that.
>
> Well, I don't know why this needs to be that complicated. We already have
> code in the mainline that's able to load a large hibernation image into memory
> and jump to the kernel being restored. And it has _no_ 50% of RAM limitation,
> this is the _saving_ part of the current code that this limitation comes from.
There is much similarity between sys_kexec_load and software resuming.
If resuming can be done by sys_kexec_load, then we need not two similar
functionality in kernel.
Best Regards,
Huang Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-14 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-11 15:30 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Huang, Ying
2007-07-11 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 16:28 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 8:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 23:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 5:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:43 ` david
2007-07-12 12:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:03 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 20:05 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 2:38 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:09 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-12 18:49 ` david
2007-07-12 18:42 ` david
2007-07-12 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:14 ` david
2007-07-12 19:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 17:09 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 14:43 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 7:03 ` david
2007-07-12 17:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 10:10 ` david
2007-07-12 13:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:22 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-12 19:03 ` david
2007-07-12 13:55 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 19:05 ` david
2007-07-12 14:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 18:57 ` david
2007-07-12 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:55 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-12 20:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 3:12 ` david
2007-07-13 9:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:25 ` david
2007-07-13 11:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:51 ` david
2007-07-14 8:33 ` david
2007-07-14 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:34 ` david
2007-07-14 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:13 ` david
2007-07-15 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:23 ` david
2007-07-15 22:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:22 ` david
2007-07-16 12:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 14:42 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-16 15:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 4:18 ` david
2007-07-17 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:34 ` david
2007-07-15 10:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:33 ` david
2007-07-15 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:33 ` david
2007-07-13 3:06 ` david
2007-07-13 5:42 ` Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 5:57 ` david
2007-07-13 6:20 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 6:27 ` david
2007-07-13 7:15 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 14:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 0:12 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 5:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-17 6:28 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 6:42 ` david
2007-07-17 7:26 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 7:34 ` david
2007-07-17 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 7:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-13 9:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 0:45 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-14 9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 5:37 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 9:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:38 ` david
2007-07-13 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 14:37 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:13 ` david
2007-07-13 15:12 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 15:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 16:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 18:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 16:48 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:12 ` david
2007-07-13 17:32 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 12:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-12 19:09 ` david
2007-07-12 19:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 23:15 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 16:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-14 5:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 9:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 10:55 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2007-07-14 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 9:30 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-15 10:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 8:13 ` david
2007-07-17 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 12:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-17 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-18 0:25 ` david
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-13 5:08 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 6:07 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:28 ` Al Boldi
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