From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:30:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1184491804.1898.121.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707142116.10237.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 21:16 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > The devices should be quiesced and the state of devices should be saved
> > in kexec_jump, before relocate_kernel is called. This needs the
> > implementation of device hibernating as you mentioned before.
>
> Hmm, at which point devices are normally shut down when kexec is used?
I think putting devices in quiescent state (not in low power state) is
sufficient for booting a new kernel with kexec, is it? According to my
experiment, the new kernel can be booted with kexec if the .suspend
method the drivers is called before kexec (given CONFIG_ACPI is not
selected).
Do we need a device quiesce/save + device shutdown for kexeced kernel to
work? I don't think so.
> > > > 4. In relocate_kernel, 0~16M is backupped firstly, then the
> > > > hibernating kernel and initramfs is copied to 0~16M, after that,
> > > > the hibernating kernel is booted.
> > > > 5. In hibernating kernel, the memory of normal kernel (it is in
> > > > 16M~512M) is saved into a hibernation image through /dev/mem
> > > > and ELF header.
> > >
> > > I don't think it can be _that_ simple:
> > > (a) what about processes' memory
> > > (b) what about areas that shouldn't be saved?
> >
> > The mem_map (struct page[]) of every zone of hibernated kernel is
> > checked. Necessary pages are saved, like memory snapshot of software
> > suspend, but in user space.
>
> Well, it's not enough to check that, sorry. That's why we have
> register_nosave_region().
After some investigation, I found the usage of "nosave" is as follow on
i386:
1. __nosavedata
used only for global variable in_suspend and swsusp_pg_dir
2. PG_nosave page flags
used for snapshot itself
Both are not necessary for kexec based hibernation. Because the image
are written from a different kernel, the memory of hibernating kernel
will not be saved, they can be used freely during image writing/reading.
On x86_64, there is another usage of nosave during processing E820
memory map. But I don't know why the memory region other than E820_RAM
are marked as nosave. I think only the memory region of type E820_RAM
will be thought of normal memory, others will be thought as reserved. Is
it sufficient just to check whether the page is reserved?
Best Regards,
Huang Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-15 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-11 15:30 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Huang, Ying
2007-07-11 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 16:28 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 8:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 23:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 5:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:43 ` david
2007-07-12 12:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:03 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 20:05 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 2:38 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:09 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-12 18:49 ` david
2007-07-12 18:42 ` david
2007-07-12 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:14 ` david
2007-07-12 19:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 17:09 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 14:43 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 7:03 ` david
2007-07-12 17:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 10:10 ` david
2007-07-12 13:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:22 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-12 19:03 ` david
2007-07-12 13:55 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 19:05 ` david
2007-07-12 14:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 18:57 ` david
2007-07-12 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:55 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-12 20:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 3:12 ` david
2007-07-13 9:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:25 ` david
2007-07-13 11:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:51 ` david
2007-07-14 8:33 ` david
2007-07-14 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:34 ` david
2007-07-14 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:13 ` david
2007-07-15 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:23 ` david
2007-07-15 22:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:22 ` david
2007-07-16 12:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 14:42 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-16 15:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 4:18 ` david
2007-07-17 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:34 ` david
2007-07-15 10:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:33 ` david
2007-07-15 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:33 ` david
2007-07-13 3:06 ` david
2007-07-13 5:42 ` Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 5:57 ` david
2007-07-13 6:20 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 6:27 ` david
2007-07-13 7:15 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 14:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 0:12 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 5:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-17 6:28 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 6:42 ` david
2007-07-17 7:26 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 7:34 ` david
2007-07-17 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 7:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-13 9:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 0:45 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-14 9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 5:37 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 9:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:38 ` david
2007-07-13 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 14:37 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:13 ` david
2007-07-13 15:12 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 15:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 16:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 18:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 16:48 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:12 ` david
2007-07-13 17:32 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 12:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-12 19:09 ` david
2007-07-12 19:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 23:15 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 16:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-14 5:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 9:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 10:55 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 9:30 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2007-07-15 10:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 8:13 ` david
2007-07-17 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 12:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-17 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-18 0:25 ` david
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-13 5:08 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 6:07 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:28 ` Al Boldi
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