From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>, riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Tim Pepper <lnxninja@us.ibm.com>, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] readahead: scale max readahead size depending on memory size
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:17:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1185095852.20032.229.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070722085041.GS11657@kernel.dk>
On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 10:50 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 10:24 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 21 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > > > +static __init int readahead_init(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Scale the max readahead window with system memory
> > > > + *
> > > > + * 64M: 128K
> > > > + * 128M: 180K
> > > > + * 256M: 256K
> > > > + * 512M: 360K
> > > > + * 1G: 512K
> > > > + * 2G: 724K
> > > > + * 4G: 1024K
> > > > + * 8G: 1448K
> > > > + * 16G: 2048K
> > > > + */
> > > > + ra_pages = int_sqrt(totalram_pages/16);
> > > > + if (ra_pages > (2 << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT)))
> > > > + ra_pages = 2 << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT);
> > > > +
> > > > + return 0;
> > > > +}
> > >
> > > How did you come up with these numbers?
> >
> > Well, most other places in the kernel where we scale by memory size we
> > use the a sqrt curve, and the specific scale was the result of some
> > fiddling, these numbers looked sane to me, nothing special.
> >
> > Would you suggest a different set, and if so, do you have any rationale
> > for them?
>
> I just wish you had a rationale behind them, I don't think it's that
> great of a series.
Well, I was quite ignorant of the issues you just pointed out. Thanks
those do indeed provide basis for a more solid set.
> I agree with the low point of 128k.
Perhaps that should be enforced then, because currently a system with
<64M will get less.
> Then it'd be sane
> to try and determine what the upper limit of ra window size goodness is,
> which is probably impossible since it depends on the hardware a lot. But
> lets just say the upper value is 2mb, then I think it's pretty silly
> _not_ to use 2mb on a 1g machine for instance. So more aggressive
> scaling.
Right, I was being a little conservative here.
> Then there's the relationship between nr of requests and ra size. When
> you leave everything up to a simple sqrt of total_ram type thing, then
> you are sure to hit stupid values that cause a queue size of a number of
> full requests, plus a small one at the end. Clearly not optimal!
And this is where Wu's point of power of two series comes into play,
right?
So something like:
roundup_pow_of_two(int_sqrt((totalram_pages << (PAGE_SHIFT-10))))
memory in MB RA window in KB
64 128
128 256
256 256
512 512
1024 512
2048 1024
4096 1024
8192 2048
16384 2048
32768 4096
65536 4096
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-22 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-21 21:00 [PATCH 0/3] readahead drop behind and size adjustment Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 21:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] readahead: drop behind Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 20:29 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-21 20:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 20:59 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-21 21:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-25 3:55 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-21 21:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] readahead: fadvise drop behind controls Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 21:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] readahead: scale max readahead size depending on memory size Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-22 8:24 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-22 8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-22 8:50 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-22 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-07-22 16:44 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-23 10:04 ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-23 10:11 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-23 22:44 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-22 23:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-23 5:22 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20070722084526.GB6317@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 8:45 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070722095313.GA8136@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 9:53 ` Fengguang Wu
[not found] ` <20070722023923.GA6438@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 2:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] readahead drop behind and size adjustment Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 2:44 ` Dave Jones
[not found] ` <20070722081010.GA6317@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 8:10 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070722082923.GA7790@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 8:29 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 8:33 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-22 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-23 9:00 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20070723142457.GA10130@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-23 14:24 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-23 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20070724004728.GA8026@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-24 0:47 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-24 1:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 8:50 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-24 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 4:35 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:18 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 7:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 7:48 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 15:36 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-25 15:33 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 7:44 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
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