From: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: Jerry Jiang <wjiang@resilience.com>,
"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@mindspring.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are?
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:32:57 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1186525977.232321.43.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B8E64E.7010708@nortel.com>
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On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:38 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
> Chris Snook wrote:
>
> > That's why we define atomic_read like so:
> >
> > #define atomic_read(v) ((v)->counter)
> >
> > This avoids the aliasing problem, because the compiler must de-reference
> > the pointer every time, which requires a memory fetch.
>
> Can you guarantee that the pointer dereference cannot be optimised away
> on any architecture? Without other restrictions, a suficiently
> intelligent optimiser could notice that the address of v doesn't change
> in the loop and the destination is never written within the loop, so the
> read could be hoisted out of the loop.
>
> Even now, powerpc (as an example) defines atomic_t as:
>
> typedef struct { volatile int counter; } atomic_t
>
>
> That volatile is there precisely to force the compiler to dereference it
> every single time.
I just tried this with GCC 4.2 on x86_64 because I was curious.
struct counter_t { volatile int counter; } test;
struct counter_t *tptr = &test;
int main() {
int i;
tptr->counter = 0;
i = 0;
while(tptr->counter < 100) {
i++;
}
return 0;
}
$ gcc -O3 -S t.c
a snippet of t.s:
main:
.LFB2:
movq tptr(%rip), %rdx
movl $0, (%rdx)
.p2align 4,,7
.L2:
movl (%rdx), %eax
cmpl $99, %eax
jle .L2
Now with the volatile removed:
main:
.LFB2:
movq tptr(%rip), %rax
movl $0, (%rax)
.L2:
jmp .L2
If the compiler can see it clearly, it will optimize out the load
without the volatile.
--
Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-07 22:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-01 12:49 why are some atomic_t's not volatile, while most are? Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-06 4:35 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-06 14:12 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 15:51 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 20:32 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:02 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 21:19 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 21:38 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:02 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-07 22:46 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-07 22:49 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-07 22:32 ` Zan Lynx [this message]
2007-08-08 1:31 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08 4:50 ` Chris Friesen
2007-08-08 6:47 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-08 8:16 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 8:27 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 20:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 12:37 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 12:52 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-09 18:02 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-09 18:04 ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-08-08 2:27 ` Jerry Jiang
2007-08-08 5:39 ` Chris Snook
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