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From: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Glauber <jang@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [accounting regression since rc1]  scheduler updates
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:18:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1187687926.7623.10.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708210900.54549.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>

On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 09:00 +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> Am Montag, 20. August 2007 schrieb Martin Schwidefsky:
> > On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 20:08 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Ok, that would mean that sched_clock can just return the virtual cpu
> > time and the two hooks starts and stops the idle periods as far as the
> > scheduler is concerned. In this case we can use the patch from Jan with
> > the new implementation for sched_clock and add the two hooks to the
> > places where the cpu-idle notifiers are done (do_monitor_call and
> > default_idle). In fact this could be an idle-notifier. Hmm, I take a
> > closer look tomorrow when I'm back at the office.
> > 
> > > If a virtual CPU is idle then i think the "real = steal, virtual = 0" 
> > > way of thinking about idle looks a bit unnatural to me - wouldnt it be 
> > > better to think in terms of "steal = 0, virtual = real" ? Basically a 
> > > virtual CPU can idle at "perfect speed", without the host "stealing" any 
> > > cycles from it. And with that way of thinking, if s390 passed in the 
> > > real-idle-time value to the new callbacks below it would all fall into 
> > > place. Hm?
> 
> Martin,
> 
> I think we already do something like this. If you look at cpustat in 2.6.22 
> and earlier we already have steal increase = 0, idle increase = 100 % on an 
> idle cpu, even on s390. So while from the hardware perspective steal is 
> growing, we do the right thing in Linux, no?

This is done in kernel/sched.c:account_steal_time(). If the architecture
backend reports steal time for idle it is accounted as idle time.

-- 
blue skies,
  Martin.

"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.



  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-21  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-12 16:32 [git pull request] scheduler updates Ingo Molnar
2007-08-14  8:37 ` [accounting regression since rc1] " Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-16  8:17   ` [PATCH][RFC] Re: accounting regression since rc1 Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-20 15:45   ` [accounting regression since rc1] scheduler updates Ingo Molnar
2007-08-20 17:03     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 18:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-20 18:33         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 19:00           ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-20 19:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  7:20             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-20 19:12           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  7:00           ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21  9:18             ` Martin Schwidefsky [this message]
2007-08-20 23:07         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21  2:18         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21  7:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 10:07             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 10:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 11:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  8:17     ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21  8:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  9:11         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21  9:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  9:48             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21 10:38             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 11:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:58                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 10:39             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 10:43             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 11:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:24                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 11:30                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:58                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 12:21                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 12:57                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 11:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-22  7:50         ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-22  7:59           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found] ` <200708141032.47235.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708140835240.30176@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-08-14 18:19     ` Christian Borntraeger

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