From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: akepner@sgi.com
Cc: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
rdreier@cisco.com, linux-ia64 <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] dma: override "dma_flags_set_dmaflush" for sn-ia64
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:14:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1187745249.18410.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070822003450.GM5592@sgi.com>
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 17:34 -0700, akepner@sgi.com wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 03:55:29PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> > .....
> > Almost every platform supports posted DMA ... its a property of most PCI
> > bridge chips.
> >
>
> The term "posted DMA" is used to describe this behavior in the Altix
> Device Driver Writer's Guide, but it may be confusing things here.
> Maybe a better term will suggest itself if I can clarify....
OK, but posted DMA has a pretty specific meaning in terms of PCI, hence
the confusion.
> On Altix, DMA from a device isn't guaranteed to arrive in host memory
> in the order it was sent from the device. This reordering can happen
> in the NUMA interconnect (it's specifically not a PCI reordering.)
This is mmiowb and read_relaxed() again, isn't it?
> > ......
> > This isn't possible on most platforms. PCI write posting can only be
> > flushed by a read transaction on the device (or sometimes any device on
> > the bridge). Either this interface is misnamed and misdescribed, or it
> > can't work for most systems.
> >
>
> Clearly it wasn't described adequately...
>
> A read transaction on the device will flush pending writes to the
> device. But I'm worried about DMA from the device to host memory.
> On Altix, there are two mechanisms that flush all in-flight DMA
> to host memory: 1) an interrupt, and 2) a write to a memory region
> which has a "barrier" attribute set. Obviously option 1 isn't
> viable for performance reasons. This new interface is about making
> "option 2" generally available. (As it is now, the only way to get
> memory with the "barrier" attribute is to allocate it with
> dma_alloc_coherent().)
Which sounds exactly what mmiowb does ... is there a need for a new API;
can't you just use mmiowb()?
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-22 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-18 0:27 [PATCH 2/3] dma: override "dma_flags_set_dmaflush" for sn-ia64 akepner
2007-08-20 8:24 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-08-20 16:07 ` akepner
2007-08-21 19:35 ` akepner
2007-08-21 20:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-21 20:55 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-22 0:34 ` akepner
2007-08-22 1:14 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2007-08-22 7:39 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-08-22 14:02 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-22 16:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-08-22 16:44 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-22 16:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-08-22 17:04 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-22 17:03 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-08-22 18:10 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-23 8:45 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-08-22 17:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-08-22 18:13 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-22 18:44 ` akepner
2007-08-23 5:58 ` Jeremy Higdon
2007-08-22 15:54 ` akepner
2007-08-21 20:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-08-21 21:37 ` akepner
2007-08-22 7:44 ` Jes Sorensen
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