From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Michael Smith <msmith@xiph.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andy Wingo <wingo@fluendo.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: gettimeofday() jumping into the future
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:47:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1187869632.6114.368.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c1737210708230408i7a8049a9m5db49e6c4d89ab62@mail.gmail.com>
[ CCs added ]
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 13:08 +0200, Michael Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We've been seeing some strange behaviour on some of our applications
> recently. I've tracked this down to gettimeofday() returning spurious
> values occasionally.
>
> Specifically, gettimeofday() will suddenly, for a single call, return
> a value about 4398 seconds (~1 hour 13 minutes) in the future. The
> following call goes back to a normal value.
>
> This seems to be occurring when the clock source goes slightly
> backwards for a single call. In
> kernel/time/timekeeping.c:__get_nsec_offset(), we have this:
> cycle_delta = (cycle_now - clock->cycle_last) & clock->mask;
>
> So a small decrease in time here will (this is all unsigned
> arithmetic) give us a very large cycle_delta. cyc2ns() then multiplies
> this by some value, then right shifts by 22. The resulting value (in
> nanoseconds) is approximately 4398 seconds; this gets added on to the
> xtime value, giving us our jump into the future. The next call to
> gettimeofday() returns to normal as we don't have this huge nanosecond
> offset.
>
> This system is a 2-socket core 2 quad machine (8 cpus), running 32 bit
> mode. It's a dell poweredge 1950. The kernel selects the TSC as the
> clock source, having determined that the tsc runs synchronously on
> this system. Switching the systems to use a different time source
> seems to make the problem go away (which is fine for us, but we'd like
> to get this fixed properly upstream).
>
> We've also seen this behaviour with a synthetic test program (which
> just runs 4 threads all calling gettimeofday() in a loop as fast as
> possible and testing that it doesn't jump) on an older machine, a dell
> poweredge SC1425 with two p4 hyperthreaded xeons.
>
> Can anyone advise on what's going wrong here? I can't find much in the
> way of documentation on whether the TSC is guaranteed to be
> monotonically increasing on intel systems. Should the code choose not
> to use the TSC? Or should the TSC reading code ensure that the
> returned values are monotonic?
>
> Is there any more information that would be useful? I'll be on a plane
> for most of tomorrow, so might be a little slow responding.
The exact version of the kernel you're using might be good thing to
start with :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-23 11:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-23 11:08 gettimeofday() jumping into the future Michael Smith
2007-08-23 11:36 ` Gerald Britton
2007-08-23 13:03 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-23 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 20:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-08-23 12:20 ` Michael Smith
2007-08-23 18:47 ` john stultz
2007-08-25 16:44 ` Michael Smith
2008-03-30 21:17 ` Tim Ricketts
2008-03-31 7:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-03 11:47 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:22 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:44 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-11 23:11 ` john stultz
2008-03-31 8:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-31 16:03 ` John Stultz
2008-04-02 11:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02 23:57 ` Karsten Wiese
2008-04-03 6:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02 4:26 ` Mihai Donțu
2008-04-02 4:27 ` Mihai Donțu
[not found] <47F3F313.7030803@vmware.com>
2008-04-02 22:40 ` Tim Mann
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