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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	vgoyal@in.ibm.com, nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:24:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1188264269.2050.16.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070827131549.GA4104@ucw.cz>

On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 13:15 +0000, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > >> > Does this make sense?
> > >> 
> > >> Yes, this is a sensible optimization. But I think it may be better to
> > >> make bootloader load kernel D directly into a specified memory location.
> > >> For example, we can add a option to "kernel" command of grub. 
> > >> 
> > >> And, I think we can do more in bootloader. Such as we can prepare
> > >> two
> > >
> > > Yes, that would be nice.
> > >
> > > It will mean quite a bit of work, but I guess it should be the long
> > > term goal. Loading restore kernel directly from bootloader means:
> > >
> > > 1) it is fast -- no need to boot another kernel
> > >
> > > 2) it is "classical" way of doing things
> > >
> > > On the other hand, we loose flexibility that way:
> > >
> > > 1) it locks you onto one bootloader
> > >
> > > 2) you no longer have userland there to do uncompression, decryption,
> > > etc..
> > 
> > True although for the uncompression and decryption those aren't exactly foreign
> > requirements for bootloaders.
> 
> Well, uncompression yes, but crypto? What is that, some kind of
> trusted computing thingie?
> 
> We do RSA for uswsusp, that may be a bit of problem for a bootloader,
> but I'm glad bootloaders are bloated already :-).

As far as I know, the grub 2.0 uses a modular implementation scheme.
That is, every OS loader (Multi-boot, Linux, FreeBSD etc), partition
table, file system is implemented as a module, and these modules can be
statically linked into the final image.

So I think the hibernation image loading can be implemented in grub 2.0
in a manageable way. :)

Best Regards,
Huang Ying

      reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-27  1:14 [RFC][PATCH 0/2 -mm] kexec based hibernation Huang, Ying
2007-08-27  1:28 ` [linux-pm] " Hu, Fenghua
2007-08-27  2:16   ` Huang, Ying
2007-08-29  2:41     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-27  5:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-27  6:18   ` Huang, Ying
2007-08-27  6:46     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-27  7:53     ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-27 13:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-27 13:15         ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-28  1:24           ` Huang, Ying [this message]

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