From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/8] Immediate Values - Global Modules List and Module Mutex
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:53:34 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1189468414.8023.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070908072811.GB1819@martell.zuzino.mipt.ru>
On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 11:28 +0400, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > Remove "static" from module_mutex and the modules list so it can be used by
> > other builtin objects in the kernel. Otherwise, every code depending on the
> > module list would have to be put in kernel/module.c. Since the immediate values
> > depends on the module list but can be considered as logically different, it
> > makes sense to implement them in their own file.
If I understand this code correctly, then changing immediate values
needs some exclusion to avoid patching live code. You leave this to the
user with some very unclear rules.
The result is a real mess that has nothing to do with the module mutex
and list. These patches need a lot more work 8(
1) The immediate types are just kind of silly. See per-cpu for how it
handles this already. DECLARE_IMMEDIATE(type, var) is probably enough.
2) immediate_if() needs an implementation before you introduce it. Your
assumption that it's always unlikely seems non-orthogonal.
3) immediate_set(), _immediate_set() and immediate_set_early()? No
thanks! AFAICT you really want an "init_immediate(var, val)". This
means "you can patch all the references now, they're not executing".
Later on we could possibly have a super-stop-machine version which
ensures noone's preempted and handles the concurrent case. Maybe.
4) With an "init" interface not a "set" interface, you don't need
locking. Simpler.
Hope that helps,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-10 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-06 20:02 [patch 0/8] Immediate Values for 2.6.23-rc4-mm1 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 1/8] Immediate Values - Global Modules List and Module Mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-08 7:28 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-10 23:53 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2007-09-11 0:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-11 5:18 ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-11 14:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-13 5:47 ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-13 21:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-13 23:15 ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-14 15:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-17 22:54 ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-18 13:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-20 12:29 ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-21 13:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-22 7:15 ` Rusty Russell
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 2/8] Immediate Values - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 3/8] Immediate Values - Kconfig menu in EMBEDDED Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-07 6:49 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-07 12:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-07 22:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-11 20:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-12 12:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 4/8] Immediate Values - Move Kprobes i386 restore_interrupt to kdebug.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-07 10:31 ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 5/8] Immediate Values - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 6/8] Immediate Values - Powerpc Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 7/8] Immediate Values Powerpc Optimization Fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-06 20:02 ` [patch 8/8] Immediate Values - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-06 21:20 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-07 12:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-09-07 14:24 ` Randy Dunlap
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-27 15:59 [patch 0/8] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-27 15:59 ` [patch 1/8] Immediate Values - Global Modules List and Module Mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-20 20:23 [patch 0/8] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-20 20:23 ` [patch 1/8] Immediate Values - Global Modules List and Module Mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 15:07 [patch 0/8] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 15:07 ` [patch 1/8] Immediate Values - Global Modules List and Module Mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 1:24 [patch 0/8] Immediates Values (real variables) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 1:24 ` [patch 1/8] Immediate values - Global modules list and module mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
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