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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]PCI:disable resource decode in PCI BAR detection
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:30:23 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1190061024.6403.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070917142241.C21399@jurassic.park.msu.ru>

On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 14:22 +0400, Ivan Kokshaysky wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:01:52PM +0200, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > Agreed. I have a similar problem on ppc where it's common to have things
> > like the main PIC on a PCI device. Note that another problem is (or at
> > least was, i haven't checked recently) the P2P bridge scanning code
> > that, in a similar way, can block the path to all devices below it. I
> > -do- have a case for example with Apple Xserve G4's where the main Apple
> > IO ASIC, which is a PCI device containing the PIC, the power management
> > controller, and various low level system control IOs is behind a pair of
> > P2P bridges.
> 
> I think the P2P probing code is pretty safe now - there are read-only
> accesses to the bridge config, unless you request to reassign the bus
> numbers. Though it won't be safe anymore with the patch in question.

In which case I will need to NAK the patch... Note that those Xserve
G4's still have the subtle issue that they -also- reassign bus
numbers :-) But that's going away the day I finally enable domains
support for ppc32 (it's been off for now due to problems with X)

> > One solution for us (PPC) is to enforce those devices and bridges to be
> > described in the OF tree, and generalize a bit the code we have for some
> > 64 bits machines, that synthetizes the pci_dev's from the OF nodes
> > rather than probing. But that's not going to help other archs.
> 
> If you can get reliable PCI info from firmware, it should be relatively easy
> to avoid at least a bar sizing. You can install an "early" fixup for
> PCI_ANY_ID and fill the resource fields of the pci_dev with values obtained
> from firmware. Then all we need in probe.c is just to check that the resource
> is already non-zero and skip the sizing of respective BAR, if so.

Right now, we have code to completely build a pci_dev from the firmware
infos. We only use it on 64 bits pseries currently though. 

> > In fact, that's a problem we also have with
> > pci_assign_unassigned_resources() which will happily move things around
> > that must not be moved, especially when sitting behind P2P bridges.
> 
> It's not supposed to do that. Certainly, there were problems of that sort,
> but hopefully they are in the past.

At this stage (but we are getting a bit OT), ppc has something like 3
different PCI code implementations :-) I do have some plans to fix that
by switching everybody to use pci_assign_unassigned_resources() and
friends but last time I tried, everything blew up :-) I suspect I'll
need a quirk or two in the generic code, but I'll let you know when I
get to it.

Cheers,
Ben.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-17 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-13  6:21 [PATCH]PCI:disable resource decode in PCI BAR detection Shaohua Li
2007-09-13  7:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-09-13  7:24   ` Shaohua Li
2007-09-13  7:55     ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-09-13  9:53       ` Greg KH
2007-09-13 11:16         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-13 12:00           ` Greg KH
2007-09-16 20:01           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-17 10:22             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-17 20:30               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-09-18  9:54                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
     [not found] <fa.ggBqx6W3i6hfs6jdfg64oXKSxW8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.o5cJ0O7pLVWRzUiVPDEZL6nKqA8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.tyYt4GOpTOmJTUbzsxpiCAObJPQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.13eJumylqINOxOaoEj9cthw0d0M@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.tAIuIM02CoL+ixB11n9Fmcqyz9M@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]         ` <fa.pxFYhTaUz2NVN7Vux7b5xVRrKTw@ifi.uio.no>
2007-09-14  3:32           ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-14 11:14             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-14 11:33               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-14 14:30               ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-14 15:29                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-14 23:53                   ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-15  5:55                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-09-16 11:13                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-16 17:34                       ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-17  9:20                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-16 19:52                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-09-17  9:31                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-17 14:30                           ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-17  1:21                       ` Shaohua Li
2007-09-18  9:53                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-09-19 21:34                           ` Jesse Barnes
2007-09-16 20:06             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-16 23:37               ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-17  0:21                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]           ` <fa.0Edi0qLTdvqVnuoDAebaTVz1jEM@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]             ` <fa.sq+NimBnzGB2syLmvcIGOvDkixI@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]               ` <fa.G9DPndNUxuPi5LrUTOL4uPFshnc@ifi.uio.no>
2007-09-26 23:01                 ` Robert Hancock
2007-09-27  0:40                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-09-27  2:14                     ` Matthew Wilcox
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     [not found] ` <fa.mM7Va6Nlsaduo/AF4MkeurSBTbs@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.Ff0IMhMYWp7NYEdjO0AftHzVOh4@ifi.uio.no>
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     [not found]       ` <fa.TLO57rS9iV7zhomQxJbV9gjbxx8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]         ` <fa.lPg6OSzX+f6jdXK1ZF0rlIhZok4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-09-15 20:24           ` Robert Hancock

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