From: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] make module refcounts use percpu_counters
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:03:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191258216.7344.129.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191231833.26950.66.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 19:43 +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 16:00 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > Module refcounts currently use a percpu counter stored
> > in the 'struct module'. However, we also have a more
> > generic implementation that does stuff like handle
> > hotplug cpus.
> >
> > I'm not actually all that convinced that this refcount
> > actually does a lot of good, with cpus racing bumping
> > the counters at the same time that they're being
> > summed up. But, it certainly isn't any worse than
> > what was there before.
>
> That's why we look at the counters inside stop_machine_run().
Ahhh. That makes sense. Although it wasn't apparent during my 3-second
perusal of the code.
> Note that (1) the module implementation handles hotplug CPUs
You're saying it handles hotplug because of stop_machine_run()?
> But it might be a useful cleanup (although a slight de-optimization).
> If you want I'll queue for 2.6.24 (there are several other module
> patches pending too).
Might as well. It removed a very small amount of code, and opens the
door a bit for future optimizations in a single place.
> In an ideal world, (1) we would have percpu pointers using the same
> percpu mechanism as percpu variables, (2) we would have a modal variant
> of percpu counters which would collapse to a single counter when we
> cared about the precise value (probably using stop_machine for the
> transition). This would be useful for many other cases.
Yeah, but before we do that, we need some kind of flag to get the
percpu_counter_mod() fast path shoved into the slow path that takes the
lock.
I'm not sure the stop_machine() mechanism will work very well if we try
to expand this much further for other users. What would the SGI guys
think if these happened more than once in a blue moon?
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-01 17:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-28 23:00 [RFC][PATCH] make module refcounts use percpu_counters Dave Hansen
2007-10-01 9:43 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-01 17:03 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2007-10-02 4:20 ` Rusty Russell
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