From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Chritoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: kswapd min order, slub max order [was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24]
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:38:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191350333.2708.6.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710021646420.4916@blonde.wat.veritas.com>
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 17:06 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > #
> > # slub && antifrag
> > #
> > have-kswapd-keep-a-minimum-order-free-other-than-order-0.patch
> > only-check-absolute-watermarks-for-alloc_high-and-alloc_harder-allocations.patch
> > slub-exploit-page-mobility-to-increase-allocation-order.patch
> > slub-reduce-antifrag-max-order.patch
> >
> > I think this stuff is in the "mm stuff we don't want to merge" category.
> > If so, I really should have dropped it ages ago.
>
> I agree. I spent a while last week bisecting down to see why my heavily
> swapping loads take 30%-60% longer with -mm than mainline, and it was
> here that they went bad. Trying to keep higher orders free is costly.
>
Very interesting. I had agreed with these patches being pulled but it
was simply on the grounds that there was no agreement it was the right
thing to do. It was best to have mainline and -mm behave the same from a
fragmentation perspective and revisit this idea from scratch. That it
affects swapping loads is news so thanks for that.
> On the other hand, hasn't SLUB efficiency been built on the expectation
> that higher orders can be used? And it would be a twisted shame for
> high performance to be held back by some idiot's swapping load.
>
My belief is that SLUB can still use the higher orders if configured to
do so at boot-time. The loss of these patches means it won't try and do
it automatically. Christoph will chime in I'm sure.
--
Mel Gorman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-02 17:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-01 21:22 -mm merge plans for 2.6.24 Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:34 ` wibbling over the cpuset shed domain connnection Paul Jackson
2007-10-02 12:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-03 5:21 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-02 13:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-03 7:00 ` Paul Jackson
2007-10-03 10:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 4:21 ` Memory controller merge (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24) Balbir Singh
2007-10-02 15:46 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-03 8:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-03 18:47 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-04 4:16 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-04 13:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-05 3:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-07 17:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-08 2:54 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-04 16:10 ` Paul Menage
2007-10-10 21:07 ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-11 6:33 ` Balbir Singh
2007-10-02 6:18 ` x86 patches was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24 Andi Kleen
2007-10-02 6:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 7:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-02 7:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 7:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-10-02 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 8:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-10-02 10:48 ` Yasunori Goto
2007-10-02 18:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 17:25 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-02 16:40 ` Nish Aravamudan
2007-10-02 17:17 ` Lee Schermerhorn
2007-10-02 18:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 7:55 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-02 7:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-02 9:26 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-10-02 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-02 7:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-02 7:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-02 7:59 ` v4l-stk11xx* [Was: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24] Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4701FC79.3060608@gmail.com>
2007-10-02 8:10 ` Wireless damage " Jiri Slaby
2007-10-02 8:17 ` per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24) Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20071002082831.GA19954@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 8:28 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 8:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-02 10:31 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-02 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20071002104734.GA9410@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 10:47 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 11:22 ` Kay Sievers
[not found] ` <20071002112802.GA12607@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 11:28 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 11:21 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-02 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-02 12:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-03 10:15 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-03 10:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-03 13:35 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-03 13:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 15:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-10-26 15:10 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-26 15:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 15:33 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-26 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-26 15:55 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-26 20:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-27 1:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-27 2:40 ` Greg KH
2007-10-27 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-27 16:02 ` Greg KH
2007-10-27 16:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-27 21:08 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-27 21:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-28 7:10 ` Greg KH
2007-11-02 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-02 13:50 ` Kay Sievers
2007-11-02 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-02 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-02 14:32 ` Kay Sievers
2007-11-02 14:59 ` [PATCH] mm: sysfs: expose the BDI object in sysfs Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-02 15:13 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-26 16:37 ` per BDI dirty limit (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24) Trond Myklebust
2007-12-14 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-14 15:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-12-14 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-02 14:38 ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-03 11:00 ` Martin Knoblauch
[not found] ` <20071002083922.GA28892@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 8:39 ` writeback fixes Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 16:06 ` kswapd min order, slub max order [was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24] Hugh Dickins
2007-10-02 9:10 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-02 18:38 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2007-10-02 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-03 0:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 16:12 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.24 Pekka Enberg
2007-10-02 16:21 ` new aops merge [was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24] Hugh Dickins
2007-10-02 17:45 ` remove zero_page (was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24) Nick Piggin
2007-10-03 10:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-03 15:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-08 15:17 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-09 13:00 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-09 14:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-09 9:31 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-10 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-09 10:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-10 3:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-10 4:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-10-10 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-09 14:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-10 15:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-03 19:50 ` A kernel Tracing interface " David Wilder
2007-10-09 9:19 ` r/o bind mounts, was Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.24 Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-13 8:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2007-10-13 8:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-13 11:45 ` Borislav Petkov
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