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From: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: aim7 -30% regression in 2.6.24-rc1
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:34:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1193909669.3019.246.camel@ymzhang> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1193824668.3019.236.camel@ymzhang>

On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 17:57 +0800, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 16:36 +0800, Zhang, Yanmin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 08:26 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Zhang, Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > sub-bisecting captured patch 
> > > > 38ad464d410dadceda1563f36bdb0be7fe4c8938(sched: uniform tunings) 
> > > > caused 20% regression of aim7.
> > > > 
> > > > The last 10% should be also related to sched parameters, such like 
> > > > sysctl_sched_min_granularity.
> > > 
> > > ah, interesting. Since you have CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG enabled, could you 
> > > please try to figure out what the best value for 
> > > /proc/sys/kernel_sched_latency, /proc/sys/kernel_sched_nr_latency and 
> > > /proc/sys/kernel_sched_min_granularity is?
> > > 
> > > there's a tuning constraint for kernel_sched_nr_latency: 
> > > 
> > > - kernel_sched_nr_latency should always be set to 
> > >   kernel_sched_latency/kernel_sched_min_granularity. (it's not a free 
> > >   tunable)
> > > 
> > > i suspect a good approach would be to double the value of 
> > > kernel_sched_latency and kernel_sched_nr_latency in each tuning 
> > > iteration, while keeping kernel_sched_min_granularity unchanged. That 
> > > will excercise the tuning values of the 2.6.23 kernel as well.
> > I followed your idea to test 2.6.24-rc1. The improvement is slow.
> > When sched_nr_latency=2560 and sched_latency_ns=640000000, the performance
> > is still about 15% less than 2.6.23.
> 
> I got the aim7 30% regression on my new upgraded stoakley machine. I found
> this mahcine is slower than the old one. Maybe BIOS has issues, or memeory(Might not
> be dual-channel?) is slow. So I retested it on the old machine and found on the old
> stoakley machine, the regression is about 6%, quite similiar to the regression on tigerton
> machine.
> 
> By sched_nr_latency=640 and sched_latency_ns=640000000 on the old stoakley machine,
> the regression becomes about 2%. Other latency has more regression.
> 
> On my tulsa machine, by sched_nr_latency=640 and sched_latency_ns=640000000,
> the regression becomes less than 1% (The original regression is about 20%).
I rerun SPECjbb by ched_nr_latency=640 and sched_latency_ns=640000000. On tigerton,
the regression is still more than 40%. On stoakley machine, it becomes worse (26%,
original is 9%). I will do more investigation to make sure SPECjbb regression is
also casued by the bad default values.

We need a smarter method to calculate the best default values for the key tuning
parameters.

One interesting is sysbench+mysql(readonly) got the same result like 2.6.22 (no
regression). Good job!

-yanmin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-01  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-26  9:43 aim7 -30% regression in 2.6.24-rc1 Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-26  9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-29  0:15   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-26 11:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29  2:22   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-29  9:37     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-30  2:12       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-30  7:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  8:36           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-31  9:57             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-10-31 10:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-01  8:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <1193922687.27652.279.camel@twins>
     [not found]                     ` <20071101150049.GB4044@elte.hu>
2007-11-01 15:29                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-01 15:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01  9:34               ` Zhang, Yanmin [this message]
2007-11-01 10:02                 ` Cyrus Massoumi
2007-11-05  1:24                   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2007-11-05  9:37                     ` Cyrus Massoumi
2007-11-07  5:30                       ` Zhang, Yanmin

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