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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>,
	just.for.lkml@googlemail.com, maximlevitsky@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dgc@sgi.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: writeout stalls in current -git
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:20:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1194344441.6289.8.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071105155749.73e0e38e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 15:57 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:

> > > Subject: mm: speed up writeback ramp-up on clean systems
> > > 
> > > We allow violation of bdi limits if there is a lot of room on the
> > > system. Once we hit half the total limit we start enforcing bdi limits
> > > and bdi ramp-up should happen. Doing it this way avoids many small
> > > writeouts on an otherwise idle system and should also speed up the
> > > ramp-up.
> 
> Given the problems we're having in there I'm a bit reluctant to go tossing
> hastily put together and inadequately tested stuff onto the fire.  And
> that's what this patch looks like to me.

Not really hastily, I think it was written before the stuff hit
mainline. Inadequately tested, perhaps, its been in my and probably Wu's
kernels for a while. Granted that's not a lot of testing in the face of
those who have problems atm.

> Wanna convince me otherwise?

I'm perfectly happy with this patch earning its credits in -mm for a
while and maybe going in around -rc4 or something like that (hoping that
by then we've fixed these nagging issues).

Another patch I did come up with yesterday - not driven by any problems
in that area - could perhaps join this one on that path:

---
Subject: mm: bdi: tweak task dirty penalty

Penalizing heavy dirtiers with 1/8-th the total dirty limit might be rather
excessive on large memory machines. Use sqrt to scale it sub-linearly.

Update the comment while we're there.

Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
---
 mm/page-writeback.c |   12 ++++++++----
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

Index: linux-2.6-2/mm/page-writeback.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6-2.orig/mm/page-writeback.c
+++ linux-2.6-2/mm/page-writeback.c
@@ -213,17 +213,21 @@ static inline void task_dirties_fraction
 }
 
 /*
- * scale the dirty limit
+ * Task specific dirty limit:
  *
- * task specific dirty limit:
+ *   dirty -= 8 * sqrt(dirty) * p_{t}
  *
- *   dirty -= (dirty/8) * p_{t}
+ * Penalize tasks that dirty a lot of pages by lowering their dirty limit. This
+ * avoids infrequent dirtiers from getting stuck in this other guys dirty
+ * pages.
+ *
+ * Use a sub-linear function to scale the penalty, we only need a little room.
  */
 void task_dirty_limit(struct task_struct *tsk, long *pdirty)
 {
 	long numerator, denominator;
 	long dirty = *pdirty;
-	u64 inv = dirty >> 3;
+	u64 inv = 8*int_sqrt(dirty);
 
 	task_dirties_fraction(tsk, &numerator, &denominator);
 	inv *= numerator;



  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-06 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-22  6:22 100% iowait on one of cpus in current -git Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-22  9:11 ` Paolo Ornati
2007-10-22  9:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-22  9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-22  9:59   ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-22 10:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-22 10:40       ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]         ` <20071022105525.GA6732@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-22 10:55           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-22 10:58             ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]               ` <20071022111907.GA21640@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-22 11:19                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-22 12:21                   ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]                     ` <20071022123707.GA4240@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-22 12:37                       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-22 13:05                         ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]                           ` <20071022131045.GA5357@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-22 13:10                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-22 13:28                               ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]                             ` <20071022134113.GA5644@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-22 13:41                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-31 15:22                                 ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                                   ` <E1InUvi-0002gG-47@localhost>
2007-11-01  7:57                                     ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-01 18:20                                       ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-01 19:00                                         ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                                           ` <E1InmAI-0003ME-2i@localhost>
2007-11-02  2:21                                             ` writeout stalls " Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02  7:50                                               ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-02 10:15                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                               ` <E1IntqD-0001dK-OE@localhost>
2007-11-02 10:33                                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-05 23:57                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-06 10:20                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-11-06 16:25                                                     ` Patch tags [was writeout stalls in current -git] Jonathan Corbet
2007-11-06 17:03                                                       ` Balbir Singh
2007-11-06 23:26                                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-09 16:10                                                         ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-11-09 16:19                                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-02 19:22                                               ` writeout stalls in current -git Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-02 20:43                                                 ` David Chinner
2007-11-02 21:02                                                   ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-04 11:19                                                   ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-05  1:45                                                     ` David Chinner
2007-11-05  7:01                                                       ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-05 18:27                                                       ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-06  4:25                                                         ` David Chinner
2007-11-06  7:10                                                           ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-06 19:01                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-06 20:26                                                             ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                                                 ` <E1IpKZ4-0004je-Lb@localhost>
2007-11-06  9:17                                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-06 21:53                                                     ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-06 23:31                                                       ` David Chinner
2007-11-07  2:13                                                         ` David Chinner
2007-11-07  7:15                                                           ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-08  0:38                                                             ` David Chinner
2007-11-20 13:16                                                               ` Damien Wyart
2007-11-20 21:09                                                                 ` David Chinner
     [not found]                                         ` <E1Inljm-0002DW-CL@localhost>
2007-11-02  1:54                                           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02  7:42                                             ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                                               ` <E1InrKN-0000MK-G5@localhost>
2007-11-02  7:52                                                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02 17:47                                                   ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                     ` <20071023075513.GA7196@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-23  7:55                       ` [PATCH] reiserfs: don't drop PG_dirty when releasing sub-page-sized dirty file Fengguang Wu
2007-10-23 10:07                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <20071023115620.GA5678@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-23 11:56                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-23 14:10                               ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                                 ` <20071023144014.GA6174@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-23 14:40                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-23 10:17                         ` Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]                           ` <20071023144139.GB6174@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-23 14:41                             ` Fengguang Wu

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