From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
Cc: Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
rmk@arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: SCSI breakage on non-cache coherent architectures
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:10:15 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1195593015.17601.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaabp8wuma.fsf@cisco.com>
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 12:05 -0800, Roland Dreier wrote:
> > Actually, we already established on IRC that the lasi700 driver doesn't
> > need this, principally because the parisc architecture doesn't do an
> > invalidate for DMA_FROM_DEVICE but a flush and invalidate
> > (architecturally, if you read our manuals, even pdc is entitled to write
> > back dirty lines, so it's not clear there's actually an invalidate
> > instruction we can use). This is also one possible temporary fix for
> > the other architectures if we can't get a different method to work
> > nicely.
>
> I think doing a writeback and invalidate is a very fragile way to deal
> with DMA into the middle of a data structure. It may work OK for now,
> but you have to make sure forever into the future that no codepath
> anywhere else ever touches the cacheline that you're DMAing into while
> the DMA is pending. It just leaves a hidden trap that is too easy to
> step on, because the architectures that get pretty much all testing
> all have cache-coherent DMA.
>
> Reviving my ancient __dma_buffer patch seems far preferable to me.
We're talking about trying to fix this for 2.4; which is already at
-rc3 ... Is an entire arch change for dma alignment really a merge
candidate at this stage?
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-20 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-19 5:35 SCSI breakage on non-cache coherent architectures Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-19 8:38 ` David Miller
2007-11-19 19:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-19 22:31 ` David Miller
2007-11-20 0:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-20 0:46 ` David Miller
2007-11-20 0:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-20 0:57 ` David Miller
2007-11-20 2:10 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-20 2:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-20 3:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-20 19:35 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-20 8:29 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2007-11-20 14:36 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-20 20:05 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-20 21:10 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2007-11-20 22:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-20 23:09 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-19 12:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-19 15:09 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-19 19:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-19 19:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-19 19:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-11-19 21:43 ` Roland Dreier
2007-11-19 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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