public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [patch] Make MMCONFIG space (extended PCI config space) a driver opt-in issue
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:43:37 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1198356217.6686.1.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071222043139.0cd59804@laptopd505.fenrus.org>


On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 04:31 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Linus really wants the extended (4Kb) PCI configuration space (using MCFG acpi table etc) to be opt-in, since there's many issues with it and most drivers don't even use/need it. The idea behind opt-in is that if you don't use it, you don't get to suffer the bugs...
> 
> Booted on my 64 bit test machine; sadly it has a defunct BIOS that doesn't have a working MCFG.
> 
> 
> From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
> Subject: Make MMCONFIG space a driver opt-in
> 
> There are many issues with using the extended PCI configuration space 
> (CPU, Chipset and most of all BIOS bugs). This while the vast majority of drivers
> and devices don't even use/need to use the memory mapped access methods since they
> don't use the config space beyond the traditional 256 bytes.
> 
> This patch makes accessing the extended config space a driver choice, via the
> 
> pci_enable_ext_config(pdev)
> 
> API function; drivers that want/need the extended configuration space should call this.
> (a separate patch will be posted to add this function call to the driver that uses this)

That doesn't look like the right approach to me.

The extended config space is generally used by PCI capabilities. So you
end up in a situation where part of the capabilities will be invisible
until somebody calls your new API, which might affect generic code in
some cases beyond simply what a driver is supposed to do.

I think best is to have your low level config ops switch between
indirect and MM depending on the requested register offset.

Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-22 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-22 12:31 [patch] Make MMCONFIG space (extended PCI config space) a driver opt-in issue Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-22 12:35 ` [patch] opt the sky2 driver into using extended config space Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-22 20:28   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-12-22 14:20 ` [patch] Make MMCONFIG space (extended PCI config space) a driver opt-in issue Jeff Garzik
2007-12-22 14:47   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-22 15:54     ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-22 16:02       ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-22 21:10         ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-23 23:33           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-22 18:06     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-22 19:30       ` Martin Mares
2007-12-22 20:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-22 20:36           ` Martin Mares
2007-12-23  1:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  1:26       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  3:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23  4:11           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  4:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23  4:52               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  5:00                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23  5:09                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23 21:09                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-23 21:15                     ` Martin Mares
2007-12-23 22:32                       ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-23 23:06                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-23 23:19                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-23  5:27                 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-23  5:44                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  8:33                     ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-23 11:03                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-23 17:32                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-24  7:31                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-24 18:51                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-24 21:22                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-27 11:46                             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-27 14:09                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-24  7:22                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-24 15:47                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-23 21:13                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-23 10:33                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-24  7:04                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-24 11:49                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-24 11:54                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-24 12:00                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-25  9:22                           ` Martin Mares
2007-12-25  9:40                             ` Martin Mares
2007-12-23  4:13           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  4:18             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  4:44               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23  5:04                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  5:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23  5:22                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-23  4:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23 10:18               ` Martin Mares
2007-12-23  5:09             ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-23  5:57             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-23  1:34     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-22 20:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
     [not found] <fa.pFsY/52FEkQYqrDPnPMxmcUOsRY@ifi.uio.no>
2007-12-22 16:22 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-22 19:25   ` Greg KH
2007-12-23  0:56     ` Jeff Garzik

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1198356217.6686.1.camel@pasglop \
    --to=benh@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=arjan@infradead.org \
    --cc=gregkh@suse.de \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox