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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/12] Use mutex instead of semaphore in driver core
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:13:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199016831.31975.7.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712292242.47960.david-b@pacbell.net>


On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 22:42 -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> On Saturday 29 December 2007, Alan Stern wrote:

> > There's no way to remove these, which means there's 
> > no way to prevent lockdep from issuing a warning.
> 
> There may be no *efficient* way to do that.  If it tracked
> every lock individually these false alarms could go away;
> but that would increase the overhead to create and destroy
> such locks too.

No, tracking locks individually defeats the power of lockdep, that is
warning of lock inversion before it actually happens. That really
requires classes.

Annotating a tree requires grouping per level, and that isn't
particularly hard (although I haven't yet tried it for the device tree -
doing this conversion is still on my todo list). The hardest part of the
device->sem conversion is the suspend/resume part, where it locks the
whole tree and lockdep is limited in tracking held locks.




  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-30 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-29  1:01 [PATCH 01/12] Use mutex instead of semaphore in driver core Dave Young
2007-12-29  1:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-29  1:36   ` Dave Young
2007-12-29  1:40     ` Dave Young
2007-12-29  1:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-29  1:52       ` Dave Young
2007-12-29  1:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-12-29  2:03           ` Dave Young
2007-12-29  2:36             ` Dave Young
2007-12-29  4:42               ` Greg KH
2007-12-29  5:06                 ` Dave Young
2007-12-29  7:07                   ` Dave Young
2007-12-29 17:07                     ` Greg KH
2008-01-02  0:54                       ` Dave Young
2008-01-02  5:18                         ` Greg KH
2008-01-02  5:25                           ` David Miller
2008-01-02  7:00                             ` Greg KH
2008-01-02  7:52                               ` David Miller
2008-01-02 12:39                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-02 13:12                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-01-02 16:08                               ` Alan Stern
2008-01-03  1:00                                 ` Dave Young
2008-01-02  5:37                           ` Dave Young
2007-12-29 22:01                     ` Alan Stern
2007-12-30  6:42                       ` David Brownell
2007-12-30 12:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-01-08 16:54                         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-01-02  0:58                       ` Dave Young
2008-01-02 16:06                         ` Alan Stern
2008-01-05  9:30           ` Andrew Morton

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