From: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@yahoo.com>
Subject: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:22:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1201641765.18773.35.camel@dv> (raw)
Hello!
It have come to my attention that a patch has been committed to the
kernel with the explicit purpose of tainting ndiswrapper - the kernel
module allowing Windows NDIS drivers for Ethernet and Wireless cards to
be used by the kernel.
That's the commit in question:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=0aa5bd52d0c49ca56d24584c646e6544ccbb3dc9
It is not the first time it has happened. The same was done in October
2006. A heated discussion ensued, and the patch was reverted as
erroneous. For those wishing to refresh their memories, this LWN story
would be a great starting point:
http://lwn.net/Articles/205644/
I'd like to see this mistake to be fixed without lengthy arguments this
time around.
Just to reiterate some points from the old discussion:
- ndiswrapper is licensed under GPL
- ndiswrapper needs GPL-only symbols
- tainting ndiswrapper denies its access to GPL-only symbols
- denying ndiswrapper access to GPL-only symbols is unfair and not based
on any copyright law
- denying ndiswrapper access to GPL-only symbols makes it impossible for
ndiswrapper to function
- no copyright violation is involved, as Windows drivers are not derived
from Linux sources
- Windows drivers don't call GPL-only symbols directly; ndiswrapper
stands in the middle and sanitizes the access
- it's a fair game to taint the kernel in some way if ndiswrapper has
been loaded at some point, since tainting per se is just an indicator
that the kernel has been used in an unsupportable way
- if this change stands, ndiswrapper will be renamed, which would only
create more confusion and would thus defeat the purpose of tainting
- ndiswrapper is used by kernel developers to create native drivers
- ndiswrapper is a stepping stone towards a completely free OS; take it
away and see less users, less testers and less reverse engineering
efforts
--
Regards,
Pavel Roskin
next reply other threads:[~2008-01-29 21:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-29 21:22 Pavel Roskin [this message]
2008-01-29 22:27 ` ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-29 22:35 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2008-01-29 23:21 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 0:25 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-29 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 23:56 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 3:24 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30 5:07 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30 5:26 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 6:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30 6:12 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-29 22:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-29 23:04 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 23:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-29 23:25 ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 0:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 0:46 ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 1:44 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-01-30 7:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-01-30 8:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 21:00 ` David Schwartz
2008-01-29 23:44 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 0:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 2:02 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 11:24 ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-30 17:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 18:15 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-30 18:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 19:43 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-30 20:26 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-30 21:09 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <E1JKJvh-0006P8-Pi@fencepost.gnu.org>
2008-02-01 5:08 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-02-06 10:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-06 11:11 ` Xavier Bestel
2008-02-06 11:38 ` David Schwartz
2008-02-06 15:10 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-30 0:48 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2008-01-30 17:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 18:26 ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-30 18:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 19:36 ` Lee Revell
2008-01-30 20:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 1:00 ` Michael Gerdau
2008-02-05 13:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-04 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-04 13:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31 3:25 ` David Newall
2008-01-31 15:20 ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-30 0:20 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30 0:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-30 0:48 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30 1:33 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 1:48 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30 2:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-30 5:04 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30 5:38 ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-30 7:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-01-30 8:54 ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 20:50 ` David Schwartz
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