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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj@urpla.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, "Fred ." <eldmannen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Keys get stuck
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:42:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205386933.4797.22.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803122222.05663.hpj@urpla.net>


On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 22:22 +0100, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 schrieb Jiri Kosina:
> > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, David Newall wrote:
> > > > The problem is that under heavy load the auto-repeat problem is real;
> > > > I've seen it as well, and it means that I've started to try to avoid
> > > > "make -j4" since that's a great way to trigger it.
> > >
> > > I'm sure it does suck under heavy load, although I suppose you could
> > > increase the start time.  But I wonder if that is the problem this
> > > time?  Modern machines are so damned fast they actually take real
> > > effort to load.  Actually, "make -j4" doesn't sound particularly heavy.
> > > There's huge disk i/o in a make.  Plenty of scheduling opportunities.
> > > Obviously I only know what everybody else here knows; but with so many
> > > recent posts suggesting a scheduling fault has been introduced, I'm
> > > expecting it to be that.
> >
> > The problem became much more apparent during early -rc phase of 2.6.25
> > for those people that have CONFIG_GROUP_SCHED turned on. This clearly
> > shows that X are somehow unhappy with how kernel schedules them, but I
> > don't have idea how autorepeat is implemented inside X and what could be
> > the problem right now.
> 
> Just for the record, this problem started with openSUSE 10.2 for me, that's 
> a 2.6.18 thingy. I'm a heavy xterm user, where the autorepeat gets a life 
> of its own _occasionally_. I'm able to stop it by triggering a autorepeat 
> manually (typical antidot reaction).

I've seen these key repeats for years.  All I ever had to do was to make
X run heavily enough in the presence of another (hefty) load that it
hits the expired array and thereby takes a serious latency hit.  I
always considered key repeats under load to be X's quaint way of saying
"HEEEEELP MEEEE" ;-)

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-13  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-11 23:32 Keys get stuck Fred .
2008-03-12  0:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-12  8:48 ` Sebastien Dugue
2008-03-12 10:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-12 10:44   ` David Newall
2008-03-12 14:47     ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-12 15:20       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-12 16:47       ` David Newall
2008-03-12 16:49         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-12 21:22           ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2008-03-13  5:42             ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2008-03-13  9:48               ` Jan Knutar
2008-03-13 11:28                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13 11:31                   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-13 12:02                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13 12:02                   ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-13 12:06                     ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-13 12:19                       ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-13 12:21                     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-03-13 14:18                     ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-13 15:13                       ` Swap makes X unfair (was Re: Keys get stuck) Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-14 11:02                         ` Helge Hafting
2008-03-15 22:11                           ` Carlos R. Mafra
2008-03-16 15:27                           ` Jan Knutar
2008-03-14 18:34                       ` Keys get stuck Pavel Machek
2008-03-13 17:14     ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-13 17:56       ` Fred .
2008-03-13 18:03         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-14  9:21       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-03-14 18:24         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-14 21:34           ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-03-14 13:30       ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-03-14 19:35         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-13 13:01 ` Mark Lord
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2008-03-14 20:20         ` Bodo Eggert

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