From: "Alexander van Heukelum" <heukelum@fastmail.fm>
To: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
"Alexander van Heukelum" <heukelum@mailshack.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>, "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: merge the simple bitops and move them to bitops.h
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:33:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205530409.27413.1242484373@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080314195520.GV2522@one.firstfloor.org>
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:55:20 +0100, "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>
said:
>
> The CMOV define should probably be dependent on what CPU the kernel
> is tuned for. It was originally written for when x86-64 was only
> K8 which has fast CMOV, but e.g. on P4 CMOV is actually deprecated
> over jumps.
Hi Andi,
I guess you are right. But there is quite a big number of different
types of P4. Let's see what the current situation is... defconfigs
(of current x86#testing+this patch/current linus) with
CONFIG_GENERIC_CPU=n:
Athlon: 4764 / 4667 occurences of cmovxx
Pentium-IV: 4079 / 3982 occurences of cmovxx
Pentium-M: 3939 / 3841 occurences of cmovxx
Core-2: 4335 / 4330 occurences of cmovxx
So it adds a few percent extra cmovxx's. The last one is fishy...
But I'm too hungry and sleepy to go hunt that one down.
> > Both define fls64(), but i386 uses a generic one and x86_64 defines
> > one all by itself. The generic one is currently not suitable for
> > use by 64-bit archs... that can change.
>
> It is very unlikely a generic one will ever be able to compete
> with a single instruction.
Generic is maybe not the right term: asm-generic/bitops/fls64.h has:
static inline int fls64(__u64 x)
{
__u32 h = x >> 32;
if (h)
return fls(h) + 32;
return fls(x);
}
I just wanted to move the 64-bit version to that header, with some
ifdefs to select the right one.
> > x86_64 defines ARCH_HAS_FAST_MULTIPLIER, i386 not. This affects a
> > choice of generated code in the (generic) hweight function. It would
> > be nice if that could move to some other file.
>
> It depends on the CPU, but it can be probably safely set on pretty much
> all modern x86 cores.
In fact I just found out that it only had an effect for 64 bit
machines. Still, setting it unconditionally feels wrong.
> > x86_64 has a mysterious inline function set_bit_string, which is
> > only used by pci-calgary_64.c and pci-gart_64.c. Not sure what to
> > do with it.
>
> It's generic and could really live in linux/bitops.h
It could. But it is a trivial (slow?) implementation. Probably fine
for the uses in pci-calgary_64.c and pci-gart_64.c (small ranges?),
but I would worry about people using it, thinking it was a near-
optimal implementation.
Greetings,
Alexander
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-14 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-12 20:01 [PATCH] x86: merge the simple bitops and move them to bitops.h Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-14 18:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-14 19:43 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-14 19:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-14 21:33 ` Alexander van Heukelum [this message]
2008-03-14 21:42 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-14 22:01 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-14 22:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-15 17:54 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-15 19:19 ` K8, EFFICEON and CORE2 support the cmovxx instructions Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-15 20:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-15 21:06 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-15 21:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH] x86: K8, GEODE_LX, CRUSOE, " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-21 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-14 20:35 ` [PATCH v2] x86: merge the simple bitops and move them to bitops.h Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-14 23:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-03-15 12:04 ` [PATCH v3] " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-03-21 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-14 21:15 ` [PATCH] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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