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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] introduce CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:27:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205807270.28128.96.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1205805818.28128.91.camel@localhost>


On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 19:03 -0700, john stultz wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 05:50 +0100, Roman Zippel wrote:
> > > @@ -439,6 +475,7 @@ static void clocksource_adjust(s64 offset)
> > >  void update_wall_time(void)
> > >  {
> > >  	cycle_t offset;
> > > +	static u64 raw_snsec; /* shifted raw nanosecnds */
> > >  
> > >  	/* Make sure we're fully resumed: */
> > >  	if (unlikely(timekeeping_suspended))
> > 
> > IMO that's really a clock property, so this belongs in the clock 
> > structure.
> > (Some day we may want to have multiple active clocks for various purposes 
> > and thus export multiple raw clocks.)
> 
> I disagree. I think that crufts up the clocksource structure (which is
> ideally just a simple hw counter abstraction), with timekeeping state.

Bah. Ok, I've talked myself out of this one. 

I still think it crufts up the clocksource structure, but its more
consistent that we follow the established cruft (such as the
pre-calculated cycle_interval/xtime_interval/raw_interval combo) rather
then me trying to arbitrarily draw the line in the sand at this
variable.


> I'm still not sold on the multiple clocks with multiple notions of time
> idea you keep on bringing up. But if/when we cross that bridge, maybe it
> would be better to add a timekeeping_clock mid-layer abstraction that
> keeps the clocksource specific timekeeping state. That way we don't add
> lots of complexity for the clocksource driver writers to deal with and
> we allow the clocksources to be better re-purposed (for maybe more sane
> things like performance counters) without getting too bloated.

I still think pulling out all of the non-counter-abstraction bits out of
the clocksource and into a mid-level timekeeping_clock structure would
still be ideal here, but I'll save our time/energy on that one for
another day. :)

thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-18  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-15  4:04 [PATCH 0/5] time/ntp changes john stultz
2008-03-15  4:05 ` [PATCH 1/5] split clocksource adjustment from clockosurce mult john stultz
2008-03-15  4:06   ` [PATCH 2/5] introduce CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW john stultz
2008-03-15  4:10     ` [PATCH 3/5] cleanups ntp.c (from Ingo) john stultz
2008-03-15  4:12       ` [PATCH 4/5] ntp.c code flow clenaups " john stultz
2008-03-15  4:15         ` [PATCH 5/5] make more ntp values static john stultz
2008-03-15  5:09           ` Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  4:52         ` [PATCH 4/5] ntp.c code flow clenaups (from Ingo) Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  5:04           ` John Stultz
2008-03-15 12:39         ` Ingo Oeser
2008-03-15 17:24           ` Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  5:06       ` [PATCH 3/5] cleanups ntp.c " Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  9:32       ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2008-03-15 17:23         ` Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  4:50     ` [PATCH 2/5] introduce CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW Roman Zippel
2008-03-18  2:03       ` john stultz
2008-03-18  2:27         ` john stultz [this message]
2008-03-26  3:41         ` Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  4:28   ` [PATCH 1/5] split clocksource adjustment from clockosurce mult Roman Zippel
2008-03-15  5:07     ` John Stultz

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