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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@suse.de>,
	David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:34:37 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206052477.8420.26.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0803201412210.22752-100000@netrider.rowland.org>


On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 14:26 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> 
> One of the things we don't want to do is bind a new driver to a device
> after it has gone through the prepare() stage.  Doing so would involve
> calling the driver's probe() routine, which is likely to want to
> register new children and who knows what else.  The probe routine might 
> even end up running after the device was suspended!  Clearly this 
> should be avoided.
> 
> But the user can force a binding to occur by writing the device's path
> to the driver's "bind" attribute in sysfs.  This means that
> driver_bind() in drivers/base/bus.c will need to know whether or not
> the device has gone through the prepare() stage, which means the device
> structure will need to have a flag set before prepare() is called (more 
> precisely, the flag must be set before dev->sem is released following 
> the call to prepare).
> 
> Either that or else driver_bind() must always block whenever a system
> sleep is in progress.  That would be easier -- but it's a lot like what 
> the freezer would do.  Which would you prefer?

I don't fully understand what you are saying here.

You say "bind a new driver to a device after it has gone through the
prepare() stage"

So either there was already a driver bound to that device, which got a
prepare() callback, and in which case bind() doesn't mean much. Or there
was not, in which case there was no prepare() call involved.

I suppose if you prepare(), then unbind(), then something tries to
bind()... But wouldn't the core flag set after prepare() be plenty
enough to shield against that ?

I fail to see the race you are talking about here.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-16 23:20 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] PM: Rework suspend and hibernation code for devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-16 23:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-18 10:01   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-18 15:10     ` Alan Stern
2008-03-18 23:54       ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19  1:04         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19  2:44           ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19  3:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-19 15:19               ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20  3:33                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-20 14:45                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 22:32                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-20 18:26                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 22:34                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-03-20 22:57                       ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19  0:53   ` Greg KH
2008-03-19  9:15     ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19 13:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 18:07       ` Greg KH
2008-03-16 23:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-18 10:02   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-16 23:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-18 10:02   ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19  0:55   ` Greg KH
2008-03-19 13:24     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 18:06       ` Greg KH

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