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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Marcin Slusarz <marcin.slusarz@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:15:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206382547.6437.131.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803241021350.17905@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 10:58 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > 
> > As to the regression reported by Marcin; what happens is that we invoke
> > printk() while holding the xtime lock for writing. printk() will call
> > wake_up_klogd() which tries to enqueue klogd on some rq.
> > 
> > The known deadlock here is calling printk() while holding rq->lock, which
> > would then try to recusively lock the rq again when trying to wake klogd.
> 
> Ok.
> 
> Right now, however, I think that for 2.6.25 I'll just remove the printk. 
> 
> And for the long haul, I really don't think the solution is 
> "printk_nowakup()", because this is going to happen again when somebody 
> doesn't realize the code is called with the rq lock held, and it's going 
> to be a bitch to debug.

Yeah, we get the printk vs rq->lock thing on regular basis, the xtime
lock is new.

If the NMI watchdog works its rather easy to debug.

> I just don't think this is maintainable. 

I'm afraid I'll have to agree.

How about I use the lockdep infrastructure to check if printk() is
invoked whole holding either xtime or rq lock, and then avoid calling
wake_up_klogd(). That way, we at least get sane debug output when the
lock debugging infrastructure is enabled?

As for removing the printk(), Thomas, do you see any other sane way to
relay that information?




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-24 12:24 [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] printk_nowakeup() Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] time: xtime lock vs printk Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-24 14:21   ` Daniel Walker
2008-03-24 14:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Marcin Slusarz
2008-03-24 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-24 18:15   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-03-24 18:57     ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 13:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 13:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 16:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 17:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 17:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 17:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 17:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 18:14                   ` [PATCH] printk: robustify printk Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 18:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 18:33                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 19:14                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 19:21                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 19:37                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 19:49                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 20:32                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:37                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 20:46                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 20:57                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 21:13                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-08 20:50                               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 19:47                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 10:45                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 11:03                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 11:22                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 11:42                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 14:15                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-11 14:29                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 14:55                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-11 12:02                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:14                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 11:04                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-11 11:51                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:36                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-20 12:40                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-08-20 12:43                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-20 13:40                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 16:09                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-11 13:22                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:30                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 20:20                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 21:35                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 23:02                     ` David Miller
2008-08-09  0:18                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-08 17:52                 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk vs rq->lock and xtime lock Steven Rostedt
2008-03-24 18:16   ` Linus Torvalds

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