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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: fix sense_slab/bio swapping livelock
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:47:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1207601233.29991.32.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804072121320.28744@blonde.site>

On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 21:31 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 20:40 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > 
> > > My supposition is that once a page has been allocated from __GFP_HIGH
> > > reserves to a scsi sense_slab, swap_writepages are liable to gobble up
> > > the rest of the page with bio allocations which they wouldn't have had
> > > access to traditionally (i.e. under SLAB).
> > > 
> > > So an unexpected behaviour emerges from SLUB's slab merging.
> > 
> > Somewhere along the line of my swap over network patches I made
> > 'robustified' SLAB to ensure these sorts of things could not happen - it
> > came at a cost though.
> > 
> > It would basically fail[*] allocations that had a higher low watermark
> > than what was used to allocate the current slab.
> > 
> > [*] - well, it would attempt to allocate a new slab to raise the current
> > watermark, but failing that it would fail the allocation.
> 
> Thanks, Peter: that sounds just right to me; but a larger change than
> we'd want to jump into for this one particular issue - it might have
> its own unexpected consequences.

Right, but I doubt we'd ever get something like that merged though -
esp. as it will basically destroy the SLUB fast-path.

SLAB allocation fairness:
  http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/1/16/61

I abandoned this approach because it was too expensive; it was reduced
to the ALLOC_NO_WATERMARKS state transition. Which is much more unlikely
to happen and it's generally accepted we're in a slow path once we
really dive so low into the reserves.

The latest posting:
  http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/3/20/214



  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-07 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-06 22:56 [PATCH] scsi: fix sense_slab/bio swapping livelock Hugh Dickins
2008-04-06 23:35 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-07  1:01   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-07 17:51     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-07 18:04       ` James Bottomley
2008-04-07 18:26         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-07  2:48 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-04-07 18:07   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-08 14:04     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-04-07  5:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-07 19:40   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-07 19:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-07 20:31       ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-07 20:47         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-04-07 21:00         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-07 21:05           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-07 21:15             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-07 21:34               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-07 21:39                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-07 22:05                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-07 22:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-07 22:42                       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-08 20:42                       ` Pekka J Enberg
2008-04-08 20:44                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-08 20:45                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-08 21:11                           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-08 21:40                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-07 21:30             ` Hugh Dickins
2008-04-07 21:36               ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-08 20:43     ` Christoph Lameter

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