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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@suse.de>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:47:36 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1208206056.6958.176.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0804141049370.2236-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>


On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 10:51 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, David Brownell wrote:
> 
> > I sort of agree.  Looking at it from a whole-system perspective,
> > suspending needs to be able to chitchat with userspace ... and I
> > don't think that can be done *before* writing to /sys/power/state
> > in an acceptably generic/portable way.  (Briefly, applications
> > need to have clean stopping points and be able to arrange system
> > wakeup.  They may well have more work to do than most drivers.)
> 
> Pavel's recent work aside, the only way to initiate a system sleep is 
> from userspace.  So it seems natural for all application notifications 
> to be made by the initiating program, perhaps via dbus.

No. Certainly not via dbus.

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-14 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-03 23:11 [PATCH 0/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-12  0:23   ` Greg KH
2008-04-13 13:31     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 13:33       ` [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 21:05         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 21:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 22:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 22:27               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 22:47                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:08                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:46                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  0:31                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  0:46                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  1:09                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  3:23                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  6:43                               ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14  7:23                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  7:37                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14  7:50                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 12:11                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 15:13                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 20:48                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 14:49                               ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 20:41                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14  1:37                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-14 12:25                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:11                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-13 23:17                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:29                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-13 23:23                     ` Alan Stern
2008-04-13 23:33                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:49                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:48                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  0:07                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  0:40                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  0:59                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  0:43                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14  0:50                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14  4:47                   ` David Brownell
2008-04-14 12:34                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 14:51                     ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 20:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-04-14 21:21                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 10:55                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 20:45                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 20:56                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-15 19:27         ` patch pm-introduce-new-top-level-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-04-13 13:33       ` [PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-15 19:27         ` patch pm-new-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks-for-platform-bus-type.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-04-13 13:34       ` [PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-15 19:27         ` patch pm-new-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks-for-pci-bus-type.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-04-29 22:26         ` PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type Greg KH
2008-04-30 12:09           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI " Rafael J. Wysocki

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