From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul E McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Semphore -> mutex in the device tree
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:17:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1208449029.7115.34.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0804171204460.18040-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 12:11 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 11:22 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Peter:
> > >
> > > The obstacle to converting the semaphore in struct device to a mutex
> > > has been that its tree-oriented usage pattern isn't compatible with
> > > lockdep.
> > >
> > > In order to get around this and at least begin the conversion process,
> > > how about adding a provision for making some classes of mutex invisible
> > > to lockdep? I know it doesn't solve the fundamental problem, but maybe
> > > it's a step in the right direction.
> >
> > the device lock has two problems with lockdep:
> >
> > 1) on suspend it takes more than MAX_LOCK_DEPTH (48) locks
>
> This isn't true any more. Not in Greg KH's development tree.
>
> > 2) tree nesting
> >
> >
> > Lets start with the easy one first; would a similar solution to the
> > radix tree locking as found in -rt work?
> >
> > http://programming.kicks-ass.net/kernel-patches/concurrent-pagecache/23-rc1-rt/radix-concurrent-lockdep.patch
> >
> > That does mean you have to set an effective max depth to the tree, is
> > that a practical issue?
>
> I don't know. But I suspect it wouldn't be sufficient to solve the
> problems associated with tree nesting.
It works for strict top-down locking. The sideways locking you do:
> For example, it's quite likely that some code somewhere needs to hold
> two sibling nodes' locks at the same time. Provided the parent node is
> already locked, this operation is perfectly safe. But is lockdep able
> to handle it?
Your siblings are ordered; so a simple mutex_lock_nested() should work
between siblings as long as you never need more than 8 siblings locked
at any one time.
> There are other, more subtle problems too; this is just one example.
Can you think of a situation where the top-down class annotation and the
sideways _nesting() isn't sufficient? If so, please share.
> > The harder part is 1), holding _that_ many locks. Would something
> > obscene like this work for you:
>
> This is no longer needed, fortunately. :-)
Ah, good :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-17 16:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-17 15:22 Semphore -> mutex in the device tree Alan Stern
2008-04-17 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:11 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-17 16:17 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-04-17 18:43 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-18 6:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 14:27 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-18 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 21:45 ` Alan Stern
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