From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:52:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1208616747.6452.3.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080418142949.GB3922@redhat.com>
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 10:29 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> > > That, plus the new hand-written function (trace_futex_wait) would
> > > still need to manage the packaging of the arguments for consumption by
> > > separately compiled pieces. It is desirable not to require such
> > > hand-written functions to *also* be declared in headers for these
> > > event consumers to compile against.
>
> > *blink* so all this is so you don't have to put a declarion in a
> > header file? How about we put these premanent markers in a header -
> > Mathieu says there are <200. Surely that's not too much trouble.
> > [...]
>
> It's not just that - it's a whole package including easy creation of
> new markers, the code that manages their activation and deactivation,
> the tool code that connects up to receive new events *and parameters*.
> The current approach does not require tight compilation-level
> coupling. Indeed, for a new marker, the current approach requires
> *no* code changes to anywhere other than the one-line inserted marker,
> for tools like systemtap to connect and use them. Cool eh?
I'm thinking the two use-cases are confused here. So we have
a) permanent markers
b) ad-hoc debug markers
I'm thinking that for the first class the compilation level coupling is
no problem at all. And for the second class it doesn't matter how ugly
they are as long as it works on the spot.
So I'm arguing these two should be separated.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-19 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-15 11:50 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Debugging infrastructure for Futexes using Markers K. Prasad
2008-04-15 11:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c K. Prasad
2008-04-15 11:55 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Marker handler for the probes in futex file K. Prasad
2008-04-15 12:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 12:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 12:50 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-15 16:13 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-15 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 13:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 14:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 14:21 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-15 14:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 21:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 13:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-16 13:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 14:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-16 14:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 15:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 20:10 ` text_poke, vmap and vmalloc on x86_64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 21:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-15 13:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Marker probes in futex.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-16 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 19:19 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-17 20:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-19 12:13 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-19 21:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-18 6:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-15 15:52 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-16 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 22:02 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-18 6:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 14:29 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-19 12:28 ` K. Prasad
2008-04-19 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-04-19 18:03 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-19 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-19 18:48 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-04-22 17:50 ` Nicholas Miell
2008-04-19 14:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-04-19 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-18 10:44 ` Andrew Morton
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